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		<title>The Makings of a Pickup Aerocap: T Vago&#8217;s Dakota</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the last several months, Ecomodder forum member t vago has been working on a custom aeroshell for his 2000 Dakota Quad Cab pickup truck. While many fuel conscious people will look down on pickup trucks as eminently wasteful, truck owners are a group that has uniquely embraced the spirit of ecomodding. After all, they represent [...]]]></description>
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<p>For the last several months, <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum">Ecomodder forum</a> member t vago has been working on a custom aeroshell for his 2000 Dakota Quad Cab pickup truck. While many fuel conscious people will look down on pickup trucks as eminently wasteful, truck owners are a group that has uniquely embraced the spirit of ecomodding. After all, they represent one of the biggest opportunities for improvement in modern motor vehicles.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true: trucks are by in large not built with fuel economy in mind. While this is lamentable, it does give ambitious ecomodders a great place to start. The most glaring deficiency of the pick up truck&#8217;s design (from a fuel economy point of view, of course), is the aerodynamics. This is where t vago&#8217;s recent efforts come in to play.</p>
<p>If you want the nitty gritty, you can take a look at the <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/t_vagos-compound-curve-foam-board-pickup-aeroshell-15862.html">original thread</a>, where t vago and others go over their plans in detail. Here we will take a brief look at the origins and progress of the project &#8211; a sneak peek into the large amount of time and effort that goes into designing and building an aeroshell from scratch.</p>
<p>In the next two pictures you can see t vago&#8217;s humble beginnings:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Pickup aeroshell" src="http://www.ecomodder.com/forum/images/s201010120001.jpeg" alt="" width="560" /></p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Pickup aeroshell" src="http://www.ecomodder.com/forum/images/s201010200002.jpeg" alt="" width="560" /></p>
<p>This original design was built with foam insulation and designed in Microsoft Excel (of all programs) using calculations from <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/wake-field-pickup-12155.html#post159097">this paper</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this original design was too weak and eventually failed, though not before t vago could quantify a 1 mpg gain.</p>
<p>Here are t vago&#8217;s mockups of his first, unsuccessful design, as well as his second design:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Pickup aeroshell" src="http://www.ecomodder.com/forum/images/20101010oldBedCover.png" alt="" width="560" /></p>
<p>First<br />
<img class="alignnone" title="Pickup aeroshell" src="http://www.ecomodder.com/forum/images/20110122newBedCover.png" alt="" width="560" /></p>
<p>Second</p>
<p>From there, in true EcoModder fashion, many other users chimed in with design advice as well as some of their own mockups. Here is just one example of the efforts put in on this project by user NeilBlanchard:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Pickup aeroshell" src="http://www.ecomodder.com/forum/images/screenshot20110123at110.png" alt="" width="560" /></p>
<p>Though it took some time to get back on track, t vago was eventually able to produce a mockup of his next aeroshell:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Pickup aeroshell" src="http://www.ecomodder.com/forum/images/s201105230006.jpeg" alt="" width="560" /></p>
<p>Initial tests with the new aeroshell demonstrated significant gains over his truck&#8217;s previous configuration:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Pickup aeroshell" src="http://www.ecomodder.com/forum/images/s201106130001.jpeg" alt="" width="560" /></p>
<p>Eventually, the cap made it from foam to a more stable, stronger version as we can see here:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone" title="Pickup aeroshell" src="http://www.ecomodder.com/forum/images/s201107120000.jpeg" alt="" width="560" /></p>
<p>The cap is still in progress as just recently t vago has noticed some possible design problems:</p>
<blockquote><p>A couple of nights ago, I was able to view the wake of my truck with the cap installed, in the rain. I noticed what appeared to be a couple of visible counter-rotating vortices right on either side of the back of the truck. From reading Hucho and looking at the pictures that <strong>Piwoslaw</strong> has in his album, it would appear the the inward-moving air stream at the sides of my aerocap are interacting with the air stream moving rearward on the sides of the truck. I think this is forming the vortices I&#8217;m seeing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hopefully we will be able to see a final version of this exciting project soon. In the future we will be talking more about these unique pickup-based modifications here on the EcoModder blog, so look forward to an update on t vago&#8217;s project in our next edition!</p>
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		<title>Illuminati Motor Works Seven Shows Off a Healthy 207.5 MPGe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 12:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[EcoModding is all about DIY. While it&#8217;s nice to see the automakers doing their bit every so often, the things people dream up in the own garages are always infinitely more cool. The Illuminati Motor Works Seven is no different. Runner up at the Progressive Automotive X-Prize, the Seven has recently posted impressive numbers at [...]]]></description>
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<p>EcoModding is all about DIY. While it&#8217;s nice to see the automakers doing their bit every so often, the things people dream up in the own garages are always infinitely more cool. The Illuminati Motor Works Seven is no different.</p>
<p>Runner up at the Progressive Automotive X-Prize, the Seven has recently posted impressive numbers at Chrysler&#8217;s proving grounds in Michigan. To be exact, they managed a cool 207.5 MPGe over the same course where the obviously impressive Nissan Leaf only managed to 99 MPGe.</p>
<p>This is an impressive feat considering that this number was posted using the official EPA test cycle for electric vehicles. Many people could squeak out that kind of number scooting around in a circle at 10 mph, but that&#8217;s not the case here.</p>
<p>Here are the final stats from the team&#8217;s run through the EPA test cycle:</p>
<p>207.5 MPGe</p>
<p>160.42 Wh/mile</p>
<p>Vehicle Weight = 2900 lbs.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some other stats for you to feast your eyes on:</p>
<p><strong>Top Speed</strong>: 130 mph</p>
<p><strong>0-60 Time</strong>: 8 secs</p>
<p><strong>Range</strong>: 200 miles</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://illuminatimotorworks.org/blog/?p=292">Illuminati Motor Works</a></p>
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		<title>Dave Cloud&#8217;s Super Aerodynamic Electric Car, the Dolphin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 07:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[singlepic id=130 w=560] Infrequently do we find a homebuilt car that is well-designed, aesthetically appealing, environmentally friendly, and inexpensive. In Dave Cloud&#8217;s Dolphin &#8212; originally discussed (with many more photos) in the EcoModder forum &#8212; we find that all our expectations for a homebuilt EV are surpassed. That&#8217;s probably because Dave has had his fair [...]]]></description>
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<p>Infrequently do we find a homebuilt car that is well-designed, aesthetically appealing, environmentally friendly, and inexpensive. In Dave Cloud&#8217;s Dolphin &#8212; <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/ultimate-aerodynamic-car-dave-clouds-streamliner-dolphine-13142.html">originally discussed (with many more photos) in the EcoModder forum</a> &#8212; we find that all our expectations for a homebuilt EV are surpassed. That&#8217;s probably because Dave has had his fair share putting together electric cars, having done over 45 conversions.</p>
<p>While the Dolphin may look like nothing you&#8217;ve ever seen before, the base vehicle is a 1997 Geo Metro, one of the classical examples of frugal driving. There are plenty of examples of Geo Metros being converted, but none are quite as unique as the Dolphin (if you need more examples, check out our very own ForkenSwift).</p>
<p>The Dolphin was put together for a miserly $3,000, but can do impressive things for the meager amount of money that was used to create it. Running on used batteries, the car managed a 70mph top speed and overall range of upwards of 80 miles, despite the fact that curb weight is well over 3000 pounds. The Dolphin is designed for highway cruising, lacking a transmission and geared to top out at 71 miles an hour. While this does allow for efficient highway cruising, it makes low speed operation and acceleration inefficient, dragging down the vehicle&#8217;s overall impressive numbers.</p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a quote direct from Dave Cloud on the comprises that were made to keep the project under budget:</p>
<blockquote><p>Another thing I would like to clarify is that my goal was to build a vehicle that can go 200 miles on a single charge with a speed of 60-65 mph for 85% of the miles, for under $3,000. I accomplished this goal. Because of my $3,000 limitation I made a lot of compromises in the chassis design hoping that the aerodynamics of the vehicle would make up for those inefficiencies. Inefficiencies such as front wheel bearings that rumble, back tires that are 10 years old and misshapen, single speed dual series motors (that were $100), no re-gen and inexpensive Curtis controllers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Using the conversion factor listed on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent">Wikipedia</a> (33.4 kWh/gal) and Dave Cloud&#8217;s own estimates of power usage, the Dolphin clocks in at an amazing 214MPGe, beating everything on the road (and everything likely to be on the road in the near future). While this is an amazing vehicle, it&#8217;s unfortunate it was built for a specific EV distance challenge and will probably not be explored in depth in the future.</p>
<p>Here are the Dolphin&#8217;s in depth stats (found on <a href="http://www.evalbum.com/3242">EValbum</a>):</p>
<p>Basic Vehicle: 1997 Geo Metro</p>
<p><strong>Motor</strong>: <a href="http://evalbum.com/advdc">Advanced DC</a> 203-09-4001 Series Wound DC 2X &#8220;Shorty&#8217; version of typical 8&#8243; ADC motor</p>
<p><strong>Drivetrain</strong>: 8&#8243; ADC motor on each rear wheel, with independent battery packs and controllers</p>
<p><strong>Controller</strong>: <a href="http://evalbum.com/curtis">Curtis</a> 1209B-6402 72 Volt, 400A</p>
<p><strong>Batteries</strong>: 60 Interstate Various, 12.00 Volt, Lead-Acid, Flooded Group 56 BLEM batteries, 33 lbs ea.</p>
<p><strong>Voltage</strong>: 72V</p>
<p><strong>Top Speed</strong>: 72 mph</p>
<p><strong>Range</strong>: 200 miles</p>
<p><strong>Watt Hours/mi</strong>: 162 wh/mi</p>
<p><strong>Weight</strong>: 3,200 lbs</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>More information:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Check out the <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/ultimate-aerodynamic-car-dave-clouds-streamliner-dolphine-13142.html">EcoModder forum discussion about this car</a>, with much more information &amp; photos, including several posts by the builder.</li>
<li>For more on Dave Cloud, check out the below videos:</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhIhdLKKTI">httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhIhdLKKTI</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yravv7jT-jE&amp;feature=player_embedded">httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yravv7jT-jE&amp;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
<p>httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTqcb0bLv1I&amp;feature=player_embedded</p>
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		<title>Progressive Automotive X-Prize Knockout Round</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that the X-Prize competition is fulfilling the objective of focusing on vehicle efficiency.  Starting with the results so far, I am hoping to contribute to the discussion and to the process. Here&#8217;s the link to the PDF that shows the results of the X-Prize Knockout Round. The measured MPGe of the teams in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I think that the X-Prize competition is fulfilling the objective of focusing on vehicle efficiency.  Starting with the results so far, I am hoping to contribute to the discussion and to the process.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://www.progressiveautoxprize.org/files/downloads/auto/Knockout_Final_Results_v1.0_06-29-10.pdf">link to the PDF</a> that shows the results of the X-Prize Knockout Round.</p>
<p>The measured MPGe of the teams in this round &#8212; remember this is the Combined number from the City, Urban, and Highway tests:</p>
<p>American HyPower    54.5    Hybrid<br />
Spira        84.8    ICE (E10)<br />
FVT eVaro        152.5    Hybrid (serial)<br />
Zap        111.0    EV<br />
Tata        134.3    EV<br />
Electric Raceabout    128.1    EV<br />
AMP         86.7    EV<br />
West Philly (MS)    63.5    Hybrid<br />
West Philly (Alt)    53.7    Hybrid<br />
Global-E        50.4    Hybrid<br />
Li-ion         182.3    EV<br />
Aptera        140.1    EV<br />
TW4XP        107.0    EV<br />
WWU        92.5    Hybrid<br />
Tango        86.8    EV<br />
BITW        51.1    ICE (diesel)<br />
X-Tracer (#72)    180.0    EV<br />
X-Tracer (#79)    188.8    EV<br />
Illuminati        119.8    EV<br />
Enginer        53.0    Hybrid (electric/ICE w/ steam heat recovery)<br />
Edison2 (#95 Alt)    97.0    ICE (E85)<br />
Edison2 (#97 MS)    101.4    ICE (E85)<br />
Edison2 (#98 MS)     80.3    ICE (E85)</p>
<p>I think these results speak for themselves!  The electric cars are in general, giving much better efficiency, and several of those (the X-Tracer, FVT, Tata, and the Aptera) also have excellent acceleration.  The Li-ion,  Illuminati, TW4XP, and Edison2 (among others) were not as quick &#8212; the Li-ion and Edison2 cars are through to the finals, though.  I am sad that neither the FVT eVaro nor the Illuminati Seven made it through, due to (relatively) minor technical reasons.  They failed at the moment (which is how racing/competitions work, to be sure), but I think their problems are solvable, and the strong merits of their vehicles are obvious.</p>
<p>The Aptera is through, but still a bit disappointing &#8212; it&#8217;s aero is equal or better to anybody (save the X-Tracer), but their efficiency seems to have suffered.  It barely betters the Tata, which is &#8220;just&#8221; a well executed EV conversion of a decent but ordinary hatchback.  The Global-E had an ignition mapping error that made their number lower.</p>
<p>So the lowest MPGe of an electric drive; the AMP&#8217;d Sky was 86.7MPGe (Tango was 86.8), while the best of a car with an internal combustion is the Edison2 #97 at 101.4.  (Actually, the FVT has a ICE powered generator onboard, but did not need it *at all* in the X-Prize. It would be great to see how the eVaro does for MPGe in charging mode!)  The hybrids all were all below the 67MPGe &#8212; except the WWU at 92.5 (and the FVT).</p>
<p>The average of the 12 vehicles using electric drive MPGe (I&#8217;m including the FVT in this) was 134.7MPGe<br />
The average of the 6 hybrids (not including the FVT) was 61.26MPGe (please note, these are all parallel hybrids?)<br />
The average of the 5 internal combustion drive cars was 82.92MPGe</p>
<p>The X-Prize results table does not include weights, but I daresay that the average weight of the internal combustion cars was lowest (the Edison2 and Spira are all much lighter!).</p>
<p>The best aero drag is on the X-Tracer, followed by a very close group including the Aptera, Edison2, Li-ion.</p>
<p>As many have said, the X-Prize is setting a very high standard (which is both good and bad).  They are essentially looking for the complete package, and virtually no glitches.  Even the well financed/professional teams had several glitches.  I would have set up the X-Prize a bit differently; to measure (and therefore emphasize and encourage) the four main things that need to be improved to get the maximum efficiency.</p>
<p>Those four critical things are; from most important to least important (as I am interpreting the Knockout results):</p>
<p>* Drivetrain Efficiency<br />
* Aerodynamic Drag<br />
* Weight<br />
* Rolling Efficiency</p>
<p>I would have scored these in relative terms, which pits each vehicle against the others (rather than setting standards that are somewhat arbitrary).  On drivetrain efficiency, I would either use a dynamometer or the best result of the three economy tests: the City, Urban, or Highway.  (This will indicate what vehicle is good for a particular role, and measures the drivetrain at it&#8217;s best.)</p>
<p>For Drivetrain Efficiency, the points awarded would be the best MPGe x Number of Seats.  So, using the Overall MPGe for 23 vehicles that competed in the Knockout Round listed above (we do not have the separate measured results from the City, Urban, and Highway test): the X-Tracer #79 would be 188.8 x 2 = 377.6 points, and so on.  The best mainstream MPGe was the Illuminati Seven: 119.8 x 4 = 479.2 points.</p>
<p>Aerodynamic Drag would use the Weight and the Rolling Efficiency, and the results of a Coastdown test to determine the Cd of each car.  I would take the inverse of the number of entrants divided by the Cd, then multiplied by the Number of Seats: So the Aptera and the Li-ion and the Edison2 alternate cars may be at the top: 23 (22, 21) / 0.15 x 2 = ~306.6 and ~293.3 and ~280 points respectively.  The Edison2 mainstream cars would get 20 and 19 (or higher depending on their Cd) resulting in 20 (19) / 0.15 x 4 = 533.3 and 506.6 points respectively.</p>
<p>For Weight, I would take the lightest one and score it by inverting the number of Entrants x the Number of Seats – the Spira would get 23 x 2 (seats) giving it 46 points.  The Edison2 alternate car would be next with 22 x 2 = 44 points.  The two Edison2 mainstream cars would be 21 x 4 = 84 points and 20 x 4 = 80 points respectively; and so on.  This give priority to the cars that seat more people, and it is realistic in terms of what is achievable in the real world.</p>
<p>Rolling Efficiency includes tires and alignment and would be prorated for weight – a slower coastdown test using a ramp would be needed.  I think an inverted number of the entrants would be a fair way to award points.</p>
<p>Obviously, all four of the critical factors are interrelated, and they all would be reflected in the Overall MPGe number – but testing for them and awarding points (in some manner) for them separately, helps focus the designs on the most important aspects – and more importantly helps demonstrate their performance; whether or not the designs get ALL of them right and in the right balance, and if there is something that lags (or breaks) and the vehicle is DQ&#8217;d, people will still be able to judge the merits of the design.</p>
<p>We could quibble about how each of these was scored – I am just throwing this out there.  At this moment in time, I feel that the emphasis on the safety, and meeting the letter of the rules, etc. are  distracting the designers from the main point; of maximizing the efficiency.  Obviously, for a finished, production, reasonably priced, appealing vehicle – ALL of these things are also critically important.  These would be determined by finished vehicle, and the buying public.  But, I feel that an emphasis on the overall efficiency, and the four most important factors that directly contribute to maximum efficiency, would have better served the purposes of the X-Prize.</p>
<p>One of the most important things I learned while I was at the X-Prize Knockout competition was: do not dismiss or ignore anybody!  There is a LOT more than meets the eye with all of the entrants, and no matter the results, all the designs have strengths – and weaknesses that are all very informative.</p>
<p>I also was floored by the height of passion by so many people.  The sight of Oliver Kuttner with tears streaming down his face; returning from the starting line of the City Test with the first of his cars about to actually get to the heart of the matter; moves me to tears, as well.  And I&#8217;m quite sure that every person involved in the X-Prize, who has put in a similar Herculean effort, feels the same.</p>
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		<title>214 mpg with DIY aerodynamic fairings on a Honda 125cc motorbike</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/diy-aero-fairings-honda-125cc-motorcycle-214-mpg/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dutch efficiency enthusiast Allert Jacobs has converted his new Honda motorbike into a streamliner capable of getting over 200 mpg (US) cruising at 55 mph. The Honda ANF125i Innova was pretty efficient right out of the box, since it followed the basic formula for low fuel consumption: small size + light weight + modest engine [...]]]></description>
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<p>Dutch efficiency enthusiast Allert Jacobs has <a href="http://www.velomobiel.nl/allert/Recumbent%20motorbike.htm">converted his new Honda motorbike into a streamliner</a> capable of getting over 200 mpg (US) cruising at 55 mph.</p>
<p>The Honda ANF125i Innova was pretty efficient right out of the box, since it followed the basic formula for low fuel consumption: <strong>small size + light weight + modest engine power</strong>.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1625" title="honda-unmodified" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-unmodified.jpg" alt="honda-unmodified" width="350" height="231" />The bike tips the scales at just 231 lbs (105 kg) and features an efficient, fuel injected, four stroke 125cc single, producing 9 hp (6.85 kW).</p>
<p>With those specs, the Honda already offered great fuel economy:  Allert&#8217;s first five fill-ups delivered 133 mpg (US) (1.8 L/100 km) over 638 miles (1027 km).</p>
<p>(With a disclaimer: he figures that&#8217;s better than &#8220;normal&#8221; because he was babying the bike while breaking it in.  He says a more realistic figure for his driving is 114 mpg (US) &#8211; that&#8217;s what he got from the last two fill-ups before he started modifying it.)</p>
<p><strong>Q: How do you get from 114 mpg to over 200 mpg?<br />
A: aerodynamics first (and gearing second)</strong></p>
<p>Being a long time cyclist, motorcyclist and velomobile enthusiast, Allert intuitively understands what many people either don&#8217;t know or greatly underestimate: the enormous impact of aerodynamics on fuel consumption.</p>
<p>Unlike the average person, he is not surprised by the fact that a typical car burns 50% of its fuel overcoming air resistance at just 40 mph (64 km/h).  Or that the higher drag of a typical motorbike means half of its fuel is used to overcome air drag at just 15 &#8211; 20 mph (24 &#8211; 32 km/h)!</p>
<p><strong>Custom aerodynamic fairing:  velomobile influence (version 1)</strong></p>
<p>Allert knew he could significantly reduce the amount of power required to go down the road by lowering the rider&#8217;s position (reducing exposure to the oncoming air) and then reducing turbulence by adding smooth fairings.</p>
<p><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/quest-velomobile-z.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1627" title="quest-velomobile" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/quest-velomobile.jpg" alt="quest-velomobile" width="530" height="242" /></a></p>
<p>His extensive experience designing and producing recumbent bicycles and fully enclosed recumbent velomobiles obviously prepared him for this project.  (Above photo: Allert&#8217;s commercially produced <a href="http://en.velomobiel.nl/quest/">Quest velomobile, a pedal-powered trike</a>)</p>
<p><strong>Diving in feet first</strong></p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1628" title="honda-before-after-recumben" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-before-after-recumben.jpg" alt="honda-before-after-recumben" width="530" height="232" /></p>
<p>Reducing frontal area showed immediate results.  To get a feet-forward position on the Honda, a new seat was mounted in the bike&#8217;s step-through area, and the foot pegs and controls were moved to just above the front wheel.  The front wheel itself was enclosed, and another fairing was added ahead of the rider.</p>
<p>(Most motorcycle owners have probably experienced the benefit of reducing frontal area and drag, simply by tucking down at higher speeds and feeling the bike speed up without moving the throttle.  It&#8217;s a good demonstration that shows  aerodynamics isn&#8217;t only about fuel economy!)</p>
<p><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-streamline-v1-z.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1630" title="honda-streamline-v1" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-streamline-v1.jpg" alt="honda-streamline-v1" width="530" height="145" /></a></p>
<p>On his first test drive, the drag reduction was obvious.  Even lacking critical bodywork needed to smooth airflow at the rear of the bike, the little Honda&#8217;s top speed went up from 90 km/h (56mph) to 110 km/h (69mph).</p>
<p><strong>Taller gearing</strong></p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1631" title="sprocket-2" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/sprocket-2.jpg" alt="sprocket-2" width="200" height="147" />Because the modifed bike now required less energy to go down the road than the stock version, its gear ratios could be optimized: engine RPM could be lowered for a given speed that would have lugged the engine before the aero mods.  Reducing engine speed normally improves fuel economy.</p>
<p>With the new sprockets in place, fuel economy was now up to 152 mpg (1.55 L/100 km) over 1901 miles of riding (3059 km).</p>
<p>But Allert wasn&#8217;t happy!  He wanted more&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Lessons learned from version 1</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Stability issues with the front wheel fairing: </strong>side winds were affecting stability, because steering force was being transmitted to the forks.  &#8220;It turned out to be very scary to ride even with as little as 3 Beaufort (about 10mph) side wind.  I did not dare to go over 35mph.&#8221;  That would have to change.</li>
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<li><strong>Manual clutch conversion:</strong> with the taller gearing, Allert wasn&#8217;t happy with the Honda&#8217;s stock semi-automatic shifting.  He added a clutch lever &amp; cable and converted to a full manual transmission so he could control the amount of slip needed for a smooth start, since &#8220;the first gear is now almost as long as the second gear used to be&#8221;.</li>
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<li><strong>Revised aerodynamic fairings: </strong>to reach his efficiency goals, the aerodynamics of version 2 would have to be better.</li>
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<p><strong>Version 2: best tank = 214 mpg (US); average = 199 mpg</strong></p>
<p>The photos below speak for themselves (click to zoom).  Allart spent months crafting full length bodywork, divided in two sections.  The front half slides forward in a clever setup that allows the rider to get &#8220;in&#8221; and &#8220;out&#8221; of the bike fairly easily.</p>
<p><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-v2-construction-z.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1632" title="honda-v2-construction" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-v2-construction.jpg" alt="honda-v2-construction" width="530" height="125" /></a></p>
<p>The windshield is less for forward vision than a place to locate the LED turn signals to keep them out of the wind.  Allert added signals on the side mirrors as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-v2-front-open-z.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1634" title="honda-v2-front-open" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-v2-front-open.jpg" alt="honda-v2-front-open" width="530" height="189" /></a></p>
<p>He&#8217;s happy with the stability of the full length fairing compared to the first version: &#8220;A 40mph (65 km/h) side wind is no problem,&#8221; though more than that he hasn&#8217;t experienced yet.</p>
<p><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-v2-rear-z.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1635" title="honda-v2-rear" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-v2-rear.jpg" alt="honda-v2-rear" width="530" height="216" /></a></p>
<p><strong>And it works: </strong>in cool, windy weather, he managed 214 mpg (US) or 1.1 L / 100 km on a 160 mile (km) round trip.   His goal is 235 mpg on a trip cruising at 55 mph (90 km/h).  Why 235 mpg?  Because its metric equivalent (as is used in the Netherlands) would be a very impressive <strong>1 liter per 100 kilometers</strong>.</p>
<p>He expects that&#8217;s possible in ideal conditions (warm &amp; calm), though he&#8217;s not simply waiting for better weather to accomplish this feat.  He notes that the fairing isn&#8217;t entirely optimized from an aerodynamic perspective, and is also investigating potential improvements in rolling resistance (by methodologically testing different brands of tires on a custom made test rig).</p>
<p>When spring &amp; summer roll around this year, I have little doubt that 1L / 100 km is in the cards for Allert Jacobs.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re looking forward to seeing more from this man!</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1633" title="honda-v2-onroad-shopped" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/honda-v2-onroad-shopped.jpg" alt="honda-v2-onroad-shopped" width="530" height="403" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>(Photos: </em><em>Allert Jacobs. </em><em> Used with permission.)</em></p>
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<td><strong>Aerodynamics: a weighty matter</strong></p>
<p>Allert Jacobs added 88 lbs / 40 kg worth of aerodynamic modifications to his bike.  He admits he didn&#8217;t try particularly hard to fabricate light parts, so his Honda now weighs 43% more (!) than it did when he bought it.People who aren&#8217;t familiar with the subject of aerodynamics often predict (mistakenly) that the extra weight of aero mods will hurt fuel economy more than reducing drag will help.</p>
<p>Obviously that&#8217;s not the case here.  Aerodynamic improvements trump weight.</p>
<p>The exception may be for vehicles that spend the <em>majority </em>of their time in heavily congested urban traffic at <em>very low </em>average speeds.  Clearly that&#8217;s not Allert&#8217;s situation.  In fact he figures the added weight on the Honda is a benefit because  &#8220;it will make it more stable in side wind situations.&#8221;</td>
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<p><strong>For more information:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>For the latest information &amp; photos, visit <a href="http://www.velomobiel.nl/allert/Recumbent%20motorbike.htm">Allert Jacob&#8217;s web site documenting this project</a></li>
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<li>Follow the <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/velomobiel-214-mpg-recumbent-motorcycle-honda-125cc-diy-11970.html">discussion about Allert&#8217;s work in the EcoModder forum</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://craigvetter.com/">Craig Vetter</a> is one of the godfathers of motorcycle efficiency enthusiasts.  Read about his own on-going high mileage motorbike project, <a href="http://craigvetter.com/pages/470MPG/Last%20Vetter%20Fairing.html">the Freedom Machine</a>.</li>
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<li>EcoModder member Janvos has been working on similar aero &amp; gearing mods to his Suzuki Burgman.  <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/suzuki-burgman-modification-aerodynamics-gearing-mods-6959.html">Follow his progress in this project thread</a>.</li>
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		<title>DIY Car Solar Roof</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Got Pruis solar roof envy? Evidently quite a lot of people do these days. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that you, too, cannot have your very own solar roof. However, the ecomodders taking the initiative to add solar to their cars are not doing it for comfort in the summer, but for fuel economy. How does [...]]]></description>
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<p>Got Pruis solar roof envy? Evidently <a href="http://green.autoblog.com/2009/08/13/toyota-prius-solar-sunroof-much-more-popular-than-planned/">quite a lot of people do</a> these days. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that you, too, cannot have your very own solar roof. However, the ecomodders taking the initiative to add solar to their cars are not doing it for comfort in the summer, but for fuel economy.</p>
<h3>How does a solar roof increase fuel economy?</h3>
<p>Well, for the average ecomodder, removing gasoline-hungry alternator is a big dream. However, the usual method of doing this is to add a deep discharge battery and plug it in at home, a big hassle that still leaves your car with a somewhat limited range.</p>
<p>Solar alleviates this problem by allowing you to trickle charge your battery for extended alternator-less trips and less need to plug in to recharge.</p>
<h3>So, how are they doing it?</h3>
<p>The <a title="diy solar car" href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/solar-roof-9549.html">DIY solar roof solution</a> is simpler than you might think. Just build your own custom solar array&#8230;on your roof! If that sounds too complicated, check out ecomodder member <a href="http://scientificmethodfueleconomy.blogspot.com/2009/08/solararray.html">gascort&#8217;s step by step process</a>, and you&#8217;ll see that with a little elbow grease and a lot of courage, you too can have a solar roof.</p>
<p>Definitely one of the cooler ways to turn your vehicle into a gasoline-sun hybrid!</p>
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		<title>How to Make Your Car Feel Like New in 10 Minutes</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[httpvhd://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYLttw-N0E Let&#8217;s face it, many of us have older cars. And cars, as they get older, develop all sorts of little, painful annoyances. One of those annoyances, which has gotten to me even since I first bought my 1991 CRX, was how the windshield wipers never really seemed to move the water off of the [...]]]></description>
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<p>Let&#8217;s face it, many of us have older cars. And cars, as they get older, develop all sorts of little, painful annoyances. One of those annoyances, which has gotten to me even since I first bought my 1991 CRX, was how the windshield wipers never really seemed to move the water off of the glass. It was like it stuck there, just to annoy me.</p>
<p>I finally discovered Rain-X, and while I don&#8217;t often sing the praises of commercial products, this is definitely one of the rare times when I will. Rain-X has done more than any other modification to make my car feel like new, and even allowed me to<a title="crx rear wiper removal" href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/how-honda-crx-rear-wiper-delete-removal-9495.html"> remove my rear wiper</a>.</p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;re interested in just how easy it is to give your car a makeover, check out the video I made on the subject. Just wash, apply, rub in, repeat, and you&#8217;re done in no time flat!</p>
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		<title>HyperRocket: 125 mpg, 100+ mph 3-wheel motorcycle</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does a Ford Motor Company fuel economy technical expert do for fun at the end of the day? He heads home to his own shop and custom builds an aerodynamically efficient, two-passenger, 3-wheel motorcycle capable of 125 mpg (US) at 65 mph (1.9 L/100 km @ 105 km/h) and a top speed of over [...]]]></description>
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<p>What does a Ford Motor Company fuel economy technical expert do for fun at the end of the day?</p>
<p>He heads home to his own shop and custom builds an aerodynamically efficient,  two-passenger, 3-wheel motorcycle capable of 125 mpg (US) at 65 mph (1.9 L/100 km @ 105 km/h) and a top speed of over 100 mph (161 km/h).  And then after using it for 3,200 miles (5,150 km), he <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=220408237744" class="broken_link">puts it on eBay</a> to make room in his garage for the <em>next </em>version which will be a plug-in hybrid.</p>
<p>&#8220;After working [on] improving conventional production car/truck fuel economy I wanted to try something with fewer constraints,&#8221; says EcoModder member John (HyperRocket).  Now there&#8217;s an understatement.</p>
<p>(It kind of makes you wonder how many house painters go home at the end of the day, budding Picassos, to toil on masterwork canvases&#8230;)</p>
<p>His street legal, 2-seat, tandem vehicle is registered as a motorcycle and was engineered for both high efficiency and fun:</p>
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<li>the drivetrain is from a Kawasaki Ninja: a 250cc liquid cooled, four stroke, DOHC 2 cylinder tuned with an exhaust gas analyzer for best efficiency &amp; driveability</li>
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<li>six speed manual transmission</li>
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<li>weight: 505 lbs</li>
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<li>excellent 0.16 coefficient of drag, calculated through GPS-based coast down tests</li>
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<li>HID projector headlight up front, and LED&#8217;s elsewhere (front turn signals are integrated into the side mirrors for aerodynamics)</li>
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<li>safety features include 4 point seat belts, roll bar and front mounted IMPAXX crash foam as now used in NASCAR sides</li>
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<p>John claims fuel efficiency of 105 mpg (US) (2.2 L/100 km) cruising on the highway at 65mph when equipped with the bling wheels and sporty gearing, and even better numbers with a couple of additional mods: &#8220;When equipped with the pictured motorcycle tires (not included) and a smaller rear sprocket it achieved 125 mpg @ 65mph.&#8221;  (1.9 L/100 km @ 105 km/h)</p>
<p>If you think a vehicle like this might draw attention, John confirms that with a good anecdote:  After being stopped by police and explaining the project to the curious officer, &#8216;back up&#8217; was called in.  &#8220;Four squad cars showed up, several houses of neighbors came out and the whole thing turned into a spectacle. No ticket, everyone was genuinely interested in ecomodding!&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=220408237744" class="broken_link">The trike&#8217;s eBay auction has a starting bid of $15,600 USD</a>. While not questioning the design or workmanship that went into the machine, we wonder if that price will draw efficiency-minded bidders in these days of $2 per gallon gasoline.   Undoubtedly his work would have grabbed a lot of attention last summer, when fuel prices were driving people into a frenzy, <a href="http://metrompg.com/posts/geo-metro-mania.htm">paying utterly ridiculous prices for used Geo Metros</a> to save money at the pumps.</p>
<p>Best of luck, John.   We&#8217;re looking forward to seeing what rolls out of your shop next!</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Follow the <strong><a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/hot-looking-125mpg-reverse-trike-ebay-8241.html">discussion about the HyperRocket in the EcoModder forum</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Removing Side Mirrors for Fuel Economy</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/removing-side-mirrors-fuel-economy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[httpvhd://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNSon0kKsmY There used to be a time when economy cars didn&#8217;t always have a passenger side mirror. For example, depending on the market, the CRX HF, which had a remarkable drag coefficient of 0.29, didn&#8217;t always come with one. Twenty-one years past the first production of the 2nd-generation CRX, we can&#8217;t speculate on Honda&#8217;s motivations, [...]]]></description>
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<p>There used to be a time when economy cars didn&#8217;t always have a passenger side mirror. For example, depending on the market, the CRX HF, which had a remarkable drag coefficient of 0.29, didn&#8217;t always come with one. Twenty-one years past the first production of the 2nd-generation CRX, we can&#8217;t speculate on Honda&#8217;s motivations, but judging by the fact that the low coefficient of drag is prominent in sales pamphlets, we can assume that aerodynamics had something to do with it.</p>
<p>Yesterday, I decided it would be a good time to take a high-tech approach to an old problem. It cost about $90 and took a few hours of my time, but now have a rear view camera in place of the mirror that once graced the side of my car. I hope you enjoy the video.</p>
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		<title>Check Out Ben Nelson&#8217;s Green Car Video Site</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/check-ben-nelsons-green-car-video-site/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL88AidYTQQ It&#8217;s always great to see a member from the fuel economy forums taking their passion and turning it into something more. That&#8217;s what I wanted to highlight a blog that prolific member Ben Nelson has been keeping over on blogspot, focusing on videos of his electric geo metro, electric motorcycle, as well as home [...]]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s always great to see a member from the <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum">fuel economy forums</a> taking their passion and turning it into something more. That&#8217;s what I wanted to highlight a blog that prolific member Ben Nelson has been keeping over on blogspot, focusing on videos of his <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/3-dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-25/">electric geo metro</a>, <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/diy-electric-motorcycle-kicks-butt-blows-up/">electric motorcycle</a>, as well as home and other projects.</p>
<p>By how much he posts on EcoModder you might assume it was his job, but in fact Ben is a video guy by trade, so all of his videos are well done and packed with interesting content. Follow <a href="http://greencarvideos.blogspot.com/">this link</a> to check them out, it&#8217;s worth it. Keep up the good work, Ben!</p>
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		<title>Official, Pre-Assembled MPGuinos Now For Sale</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/official-preassembled-mpguinos-sale/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It hasn&#8217;t been that long since the MPGuino was cooked up on our very own fuel economy forums, but the creator, a member who goes by dcb, has just started offering up the great little gauge for the low price of $55 ($63 if you want it shipped internationally). A lot of ecomodders now have [...]]]></description>
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<p>It hasn&#8217;t been that long since the <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/mpguino-open-source-diy-fuel-economy-instrumentation-for-under-50/">MPGuino</a> was cooked up on our very own <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum">fuel economy forums</a>, but the creator, a member who goes by dcb, has just started offering up the great little gauge for the low price of $55 ($63 if you want it shipped internationally). A lot of ecomodders now have these gauges in their cars, as they allow almost anyone with a fuel injected vehicle to get fuel economy instrumentation when it was not previously possible.</p>
<p>However, the first versions were all completely homebrew. That meant sourcing your own parts and soldering the unit together all by yourself. For something people that wasn&#8217;t so bad, but for others it still ended up an ugly, time consuming mess (as it did for me). So, if you&#8217;d like to pick one up (and show the open source project a little support) they&#8217;re being <a href="http://opengauge.org/mpguino/">shipped now with donations</a>.</p>
<p>A little soldering to hook it up to the car is still involved, but it&#8217;s just four wires, so nothing too bad. If you&#8217;re already rocking one, be sure to post up some links to pictures in the comments so we can see how the install looks.</p>
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		<title>What Does a Cool, Aero Car Design Look Like?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remind you of anything familiar? If you guessed VW&#8217;s classic Karmann Ghia, you were correct. This isn&#8217;t a real car, but rather a nicely done aerodynamic concept made with photoshop in EcoModder&#8217;s aerodynamics forum. However, don&#8217;t let the fact that it&#8217;s not a real car get you down. The point behind this photoshop is a [...]]]></description>
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<p>Remind you of anything familiar? If you guessed VW&#8217;s classic Karmann Ghia, you were correct. This isn&#8217;t a real car, but rather a nicely done aerodynamic concept made with photoshop in <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/karmann-ghia-streamlining-photoshop-6720.html">EcoModder&#8217;s aerodynamics forum</a>.</p>
<p>However, don&#8217;t let the fact that it&#8217;s not a real car get you down. The point behind this photoshop is a sort of &#8220;proof of concept.&#8221; By taking one of the coolest old cars around and making it very aerodynamic, the original poster proved that aerodynamics doesn&#8217;t have to mean Prius-like or uncool, but can also make you think of an old mobster movie or perhaps a top speed run down the Autobahn.</p>
<p>Do any of our readers ever try their hand at a little photoshop/design magic? Let us know in the comments what you&#8217;ve come up with.</p>
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		<title>DIY MPG Sensitive Cruise Control</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/diy-mpg-cruise-control/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been meaning to share with our blog readers more of the great DIY projects going on at EcoModder over the last few months, but sometimes there are so many it&#8217;s hard to figure out where to start. Today&#8217;s is something I&#8217;ve wanted to post for months, and every time I think about it, it [...]]]></description>
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<p>We&#8217;ve been meaning to share with our blog readers more of the great DIY projects going on at EcoModder over the last few months, but sometimes there are so many it&#8217;s hard to figure out where to start. Today&#8217;s is something I&#8217;ve wanted to post for months, and every time I think about it, it just seems much cooler.</p>
<p>Recently, work has been done on <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/cruise-control-mpg-sensitive-logic-2031-2.html">modifying a cruise control unit to have mpg sensitive logic</a>, meaning that setting the cruise control on low hills will no longer mean mashing the gas pedal to blast your way up, but ecodriving in a completely computer-controlled way. Like <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/mpguino-release-one-workspace-2115.html">other EcoModder projects</a>, this one is open source, and still being worked on, but if you&#8217;re interested and the DIY type this is one of the coolest projects out there.</p>
<p>EDIT: The youtube embed was broken, fixed now though.</p>
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		<title>DIY LED Headlights</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/diy-led-headlights/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago, forum user captainslug posted great DIY instructions for LED headlights on his motorcycle. LED headlights will soon be catching on in the auto world because of their longevity and low power requirements, but they&#8217;re not quite there yet, probably because of the cost and the relatively low amount of lumens that [...]]]></description>
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<p>A few weeks ago, <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum">forum</a> user captainslug posted great <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/led-headlight-6514.html">DIY instructions for LED headlights</a> on his motorcycle. LED headlights will soon be catching on in the auto world because of their longevity and low power requirements, but they&#8217;re not quite there yet, probably because of the cost and the relatively low amount of lumens that most LEDs put out.</p>
<p>However, not everyone is patient enough to let technology catch up. It won&#8217;t save a noticeable amount of fuel, most likely, but the reduction in power draw and the &#8220;cool factor&#8221; is undeniable. Great job, captainslug!</p>
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		<title>Three Dirt Cheap DIY Electric Cars &#8211; Part 5</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this series&#8230; Part 1: So you want a cheap 100% electric car&#8230; Part 2: Ben Nelson’s $1200, 1995 Geo Metro “Electro-Metro” Part 3: Darin Cosgrove’s / Ivan Limburg&#8217;s $955, 1992 Geo Metro “Project ForkenSwift” Part 4: Paul Holmes&#8217; $2200, 1971 VW Beetle Part 5: Parting thoughts . Parting thoughts&#8230; Naysayers are quick to scoff [...]]]></description>
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<td><strong>In this series&#8230;</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/cheap-diy-electric-car/">Part 1</a></strong>: So you want a cheap 100% electric car&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/3-dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-25/"><strong>Part 2</strong></a>: Ben Nelson’s $1200, 1995 Geo Metro “Electro-Metro”<br />
<strong> <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-electric-cars-part-3/">Part 3</a></strong>: Darin Cosgrove’s / Ivan Limburg&#8217;s $955, 1992 Geo Metro “Project ForkenSwift”<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-4/"><strong> Part 4</strong></a>: Paul Holmes&#8217; $2200, 1971 VW Beetle<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-5/"><strong> Part 5</strong></a>: Parting thoughts</td>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></strong><br />
<strong> Parting thoughts&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Naysayers are quick to scoff at medium-speed electric vehicles as &#8220;useless&#8221;, arguing that they&#8217;re too slow and don&#8217;t go far enough on a charge (OK, they say that part about almost all EV&#8217;s).  What these people fail to understand is that their vehicle needs are not the same as everyone else&#8217;s vehicle needs.</p>
<p>Tens of thousands of people in North America and elsewhere have already bought and are using low- and medium-speed electric vehicles for local driving, from actual golf carts, to NEV&#8217;s (neighbourhood electric vehicles), to faster cars such as the classic Citicar/Commutacar, to the newer Zap Xebra.</p>
<p>And now they&#8217;re building their own, on the cheap!</p>
<p>Feel motivated?  Well then, here&#8217;s what we learned about budget EVs from the 3 amigos, both in general and specifically:<br />
<strong><br />
In general&#8230;</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Be realistic</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Understand that you probably can&#8217;t build a highway capable EV with a 40+ mile range on the cheap.  (But if you&#8217;ve done it, drop us a line!)  Each of these cars tops out around 45 mph, and a more realistic &#8220;working&#8221; top speed is probably low to mid 30&#8242;s.  Steep hills are to be avoided.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>No experience required<br />
</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">- two of the builders had zero experience with electric vehicles<br />
- one had little experience working on cars in general<br />
- all you need to know you can learn on the Web</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Reuse &amp; recycle</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Read the build threads for these vehicles and you&#8217;ll discover lots of creative low-cost recycling ideas.  &#8220;Repurposed&#8221; parts in the ForkenSwift, for example, include bits from a dead inkjet printer, old tricycle, dead 12v cooler, old bed frame, used welding cable and <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/hreshowthread.php/electric-car-conversion-project-forkenswift-33-post784.html">more</a>.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Patience is a virtue</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The challenge of buying used parts and scouring eBay for killer deals is that it will probably take some time to find the things you&#8217;ll need.  If you&#8217;re an impulsive type prone to temper tantrums when you can&#8217;t get something you want RIGHT NOW, a budget EV project is probably not for you.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Let no parts go to waste</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Just because you&#8217;ve decided the internal combustion engine is useless for your purposes, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s actually worthless.  In the case of both Metro projects, slightly more money was recovered by selling good parts (fuel tanks, radiators, working engines) than the cars originally cost!  As well, hundreds of dollars were recovered by selling the forklift chassis after stripping the electric parts.</p>
<p><strong>More specifically</strong> &#8230;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Go light</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">By definition, a medium speed budget EV is not going to need to carry a lot of batteries or generate a lot of power.  Which means you should try to find a lightweight host car to keep the overall power to weight ratio manageable.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Forklifts and golf carts and used parts, oh my</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The biggest fleets of EV&#8217;s in the world are found in warehouses and on golf courses.  The companies that sell/service/repair these vehicles are potentially a good source of affordable used parts, particularly if you take an entire old unit off their hands.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>The 72 volt threshold</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The lower your system voltage, the lower your component and battery costs.  That said, a 48 volt 400 amp subcompact car is just barely workable in what most people would consider normal driving, and only on flat roads.  A 72 volt setup is more realistic, and as it turns out, motor controllers that can handle 72 volts seem to be just below a threshold where the price goes up significantly.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">A 48-72 volt battery pack (assuming lead-acid) also keeps you closer to the weight limit that a smaller host vehicle can carry without exceeding its gross vehicle weight limit (affecting suspension &amp; braking ability).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Used batteries</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Second hand batteries can be a viable option, which is good because along with the motor and motor controller, the battery pack is one of the 3 costliest parts of an electric conversion.  Depending on your range needs, it is possible to find used ones that may meet your minimum range goals.  Two of the three cheap EV&#8217;s featured in this series are running on batteries from other EV&#8217;s owners which were either upgraded, or replaced once they no longer met <em>their </em>minimum range needs.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Connect with experts &amp; people with experience</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Electric Vehicle Discussion List &#8211; <a href="http://www.evdl.org">evdl.org</a><br />
EValbum &#8211; <a href="http://www.evalbum.com">evalbum.com</a><br />
EcoModder Fossil Fuel Free forum &#8211; <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/fossil-fuel-free.html">ecomodder.com/forum/fossil-fuel-free.html</a><br />
DIY Electric Car forum &#8211; <a href="http://www.diyelectriccar.com">diyelectriccar.com</a></p>
<p>Well &#8211; what are you waiting for?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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<p><em>Electric cars don&#8217;t have to be prohibitively expensive.  In fact, they can be surprisingly affordable </em><em>for a resourceful tinkerer.  In Part 4 of this 5 part series, Paul Holmes answers ten questions posed to him about his $2200, 1971 Volkswagen Beetle electric conversion, and the lessons learned from the experience.</em></p>
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<td><strong>In this series&#8230;</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/cheap-diy-electric-car/">Part 1</a></strong>: So you want a cheap 100% electric car&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/3-dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-25/"><strong>Part 2</strong></a>: Ben Nelson’s $1200, 1995 Geo Metro “Electro-Metro”<br />
<strong> <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-electric-cars-part-3/">Part 3</a></strong>: Darin Cosgrove’s / Ivan Limburg&#8217;s $955, 1992 Geo Metro “Project ForkenSwift”<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-4/"><strong> Part 4</strong></a>: Paul Holmes&#8217; $2200, 1971 VW Beetle<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-5/"><strong> Part 5</strong></a>: Parting thoughts</td>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>1) How much did it cost?</strong></p>
<p>The total cost was $2200. The batteries were $1500, and everything else was about $700. I could have gotten a good deal on some used Deep Cycle batteries, but my wife applied for a Sears Card, so we got six Platinum Die Hard Deep Cycle AGM batteries.</p>
<p><strong>2) How far can it go on a charge?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I estimate that it will go 20 miles at 25 mph (totally dead battery pack). The maximum I have driven it was about 12 miles in a day, and it still had plenty left.</p>
<p><strong>3) How fast can it go?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The top speed is about 50 mph. The fastest I&#8217;ve gone is 45 mph. The front of the car shakes if I go over 35 mph (the Super Beetle Shimmies &#8211; still working out some bugs). I typically cruise at 30 mph. No one gets angry at me, and it keeps the current draw from the battery pack down to about 70 amps.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-749" title="Electric VW beetle" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/vw-profile.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="250" /></p>
<p><strong>4) Why did you do this?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">My wife and I rented the movie &#8220;Who Killed the Electric Car&#8221; a while back. Around the same time, I watched &#8220;An Inconvenient Truth&#8221;. I converted my bike to electric and began using it as my commuting vehicle to various substitute teaching jobs. As I would sit in traffic behind cars, it would make me choke sometimes. I started to see all those cars as stink bomb factories. They were everywhere, everyday. I noticed that it smelled really nice for about an hour after it would rain, and then the stink would slowly take over once again. I imagined what it would be like if all the cars were electric. Sitting at lights in total silence. No stink being emitted. It could smell beautiful and fresh every day, assuming we could generate the electricity in a clean way. Well, I wanted to be the change that I wanted to see in the world. I decided to attempt a cheap conversion, even though I had no idea how.</p>
<p><strong>5) Where did you get the idea/motivation?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I knew a cheap conversion could be done after reading Dr. Larry Tillman&#8217;s conversion blog (<a href="http://www.evconvert.com/article/larrys-ev">part one</a>, <a href="http://www.evconvert.com/article/larry-ev-ii">part 2</a>, <a href="http://www.evalbum.com/564">EV Album</a>). Then I saw some videos of the <a href="http://forkenswift.com">ForkenSwift</a>. $680? Heck! I could afford that! Also, after riding an electric bike around for a while, I just had to drive in an electric car. Also, gas was $4.00/gallon.</p>
<p><strong>6) What do you typically use the car for?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I use it to drive to school every day, each time I get groceries, every time I go somewhere that is not freeway driving.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: center;">httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Wlm4CXnWs</p>
<p><strong>7) What&#8217;s the coolest response you&#8217;ve had to the car?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I incorporated it into a math lesson for algebra students. We went outside to the parking lot and when I turned the car on, they thought it was very funny that it made no sound other than a click of the contactor. Only when I started to back up did they really believe me that it was on. They started taking out their cell phones and snapping pictures. When I pulled back into the parking spot, the crowd of students parted and then enclosed the car in a circle once I was back where I started. Everyone was offering congratulations and asking how they could do it too.</p>
<p><strong>8 ) What is something unexpected you learned/discovered from your project.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I didn&#8217;t really think it would work once it was done. Except for a few minor things, everything worked exactly as I hoped it would. It was EASIER than I thought it would be.</p>
<p><strong>9) What was the hardest part of the project?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The hardest part was connecting the motor to the transmission. Specifically, making the spacers for the adapter plates was very difficult. They had to be exactly the same length, and they needed a hole drilled down their center, which was hard.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" title="Electric Beetle motor" src="http://www.diyelectriccar.com/garage/photos/get_image/154" alt="" width="400" /></p>
<p><strong>10) Any advice for anyone else considering doing something like this?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">You don&#8217;t need to know anything about cars to convert a car to electric! I knew NOTHING about cars!!! I&#8217;m not demonstrating false humility here &#8211; I knew NOTHING!!! If you keep it simple, it can be a fairly straightforward and cheap process. Also, get a professional to mate the motor and transmission. It will be like $500, but it&#8217;s really, really annoying making those spacers! Pay the dang money.</p>
<p><strong>Thanks, Paul!</strong></p>
<p>Links to more info about Paul&#8217;s car:</p>
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<li>Read <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/paul-sabrinas-cheap-ev-conversion-2373.html">the project&#8217;s build thread</a> in the EcoModder forum</li>
<li><a href="http://www.diyelectriccar.com/garage/cars/48">Vehicle specs</a> at DIYelectriccar</li>
<li>More vids on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mpaulholmes+electric+conversion&amp;search=Search">YouTube showing this electric car</a></li>
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<p><strong>Next in this series:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&gt; <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-5/">Part 5 &#8211; Parting thoughts</a></p>
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		<title>Three Dirt Cheap DIY Electric Cars &#8211; Part 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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<p><em>Electric cars don&#8217;t have to be prohibitively expensive.  In fact, they can be surprisingly affordable </em><em>for a resourceful tinkerer.  In Part 3 of this 5 part series, Darin Cosgrove answers ten questions posed to him about his $955, 1992 Geo Metro electric conversion, and the lessons learned from the experience.</em></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/cheap-diy-electric-car/">Part 1</a></strong>: So you want a cheap 100% electric car&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/3-dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-25/"><strong>Part 2</strong></a>: Ben Nelson’s $1200, 1995 Geo Metro “Electro-Metro”<br />
<strong> <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-electric-cars-part-3/">Part 3</a></strong>: Darin Cosgrove’s / Ivan Limburg&#8217;s $955, 1992 Geo Metro “Project ForkenSwift”<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-4/"><strong> Part 4</strong></a>: Paul Holmes&#8217; $2200, 1971 VW Beetle<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-5/"><strong> Part 5</strong></a>: Parting thoughts</td>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>1) Tell us about the build cost.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">First, can I just say that even though I&#8217;m usually the &#8220;mouth&#8221; of <a href="http://www.forkenswift.com">Project ForkenSwift</a>, it was actually a two person build: my friend Ivan and I split the cost and the work.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The cost:  Well, we had it on the road for under $700 Canadian pesos.  But since then we&#8217;ve upgraded the motor controller (more power!), and bought a &#8220;new&#8221; set of used batteries (better performance, more range), and a few other bits and pieces.  So now we&#8217;re at $955.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The TOTAL cash outlay was closer to $2100, but we got a lot of that back by selling a bunch of stuff:  $400 for left over car parts that were in good shape &#8211; engine, radiator and gas tank; we got $364 in scrap metal prices for the stripped forklift, and sold the main drive motor to another EV builder.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">We also had a couple of generous donations or deeply discounted prices on used parts from other EV enthusiasts.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">See the car&#8217;s full cost breakdown here: <a href="http://forkenswift.com/electric-car-conversion-cost.htm">Project ForkenSwift EV conversion costs.</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-686" title="fs-front-3-4" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/fs-front-3-4.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="288" /></p>
<p><strong>2) How far can it go on a charge?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">With the latest pack of &#8220;new to us&#8221; batteries, the farthest I&#8217;ve gone on a single charge was 44 km (27 miles).  But that was under ideal conditions: warm weather, fresh off the charger, good traffic conditions.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">If you draw things out over the course of a few days or a week with multiple short trips, with more stop &amp; go, I&#8217;d say 25-30 km (17 miles) is more typical before it starts to get tired.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">In the winter, take maybe 40% off that distance, mostly because the battery pack isn&#8217;t insulated and lead acid batteries hate being cold.</p>
<p><strong>3) How fast does it go?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">It&#8217;ll hit 50 km/h (30 mph) in normal driving just fine, but it doesn&#8217;t get there particularly quickly.  On a fresh charge it takes about 21 seconds to hit that speed.  My 7 year old nephew could out sprint the car in a drag race for a good 5 car lengths!  So we stay on the side roads.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">75 km/h (47 mph) is the absolute fastest I&#8217;ve had going.  It could actually go faster than that, but at that speed it&#8217;s accelerating so slowly that I&#8217;d need something like the Bonneville salt flats to get the distance required to max it out!</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">More performance information: <a href="http://forkenswift.com/how-fast-far-much.htm">How fast?  How far?  How much?</a></p>
<p><strong>4) Why did you build it?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Because Ivan built a new garage/workshop, and he put a beer fridge in it, so we needed a project! Both of us had seen some electric conversions on the web and basically thought they were cool and unique.  We&#8217;re both basically gearheads &#8211; we&#8217;ve worked on cars a fair amount, but neither of us knew the first thing about EV&#8217;s.  So we started reading, crunched some numbers and agreed to go for it, figuring it probably wouldn&#8217;t cost much more than about $2k.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: center;">httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQWXyxSTyU</p>
<p><strong>5) Where did you get the idea/motivation?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Specifically from two other EVs: I read about a <a href="http://www.evconvert.com/article/yugo-greg">Yugo converted to electric for $800</a>, good for 35 mph and 13 miles range.  That guy is a resourceful builder!  He even made his own charger. He&#8217;s since blown up the first motor and put a bit more money into it, but it&#8217;s still impressive.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The other car that proved a low-tech, medium speed EV can be practical for some drivers is the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicar">classic Citicar / Comutacar</a>.  They sold over 1000 of them in the 70&#8242;s and 80&#8242;s.  Funky electric doorstops.</p>
<p><strong>6) What do you typically use the car for?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I use it mostly when the weather is crummy and I don&#8217;t feel like riding my bicycle.  I call it &#8220;the electric umbrella&#8221;.  I&#8217;ll use it in nice weather too if I&#8217;m feeling particularly lazy.  And sometimes it gets used to haul larger stuff that I can&#8217;t carry on my bike.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-685" title="Electric kayak carrier" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/forkenswift-kayak-roof.jpg" alt="" width="450" height="266" /></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Since finishing the EV, my gas car pretty much sits for weeks at a time between trips.  It&#8217;s become a highway-only vehicle &#8211; I hardly ever use it for local driving any more.</p>
<p><strong>7) What&#8217;s the coolest response you&#8217;ve had to your car?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The mailman LOVES the car.  He watched me tinkering on it in the driveway quite a bit and saw the project progress from beginning to end, and always stopped to talk to me about how it was coming along.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Ivan&#8217;s house is on a different mail route, and even HIS mailman had the same response.  The guy even brought his kids over one day after work so they could see it.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">We&#8217;ve had more than a couple of people contact us online, out of the blue, and ask if they can come see the car &#8211; including CBC national news.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: center;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-684" title="Electric car on CBC television national news" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/forkenswift-cbc.jpg" alt="" width="314" height="341" /></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: center;"><em>Canadians (only) can <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/video/popup.html?http://www.cbc.ca/mrl3/8752/news/features/gould-electricvehicles080703.wmv">watch this CBC News item</a></em></p>
<p><strong>8 ) Tell us something unexpected you learned/discovered from your project.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Two things: First, I had no idea it would be so much fun to drive.  Who knew going this slow could be such a blast?  I love how quiet it is &#8211; and there&#8217;s something almost sneaky about driving somewhere not burning any gas.  Google &#8220;EV Grin&#8221; and you&#8217;ll find out what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Second, I was totally blown away by how generous people were when they found out about the project.  When they saw we were seriously doing this, they wanted to help!  The &#8220;EV community&#8221; &#8211; online and in real life &#8211; is pretty amazing in its willingness to offer professional level advice, answer questions, loan tools, donate parts&#8230; you name it.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Even the guys at the local lift truck shop where we bought the forklift were great.  When I brought over the car to show them &#8211; all cleaned up for an EV car show &#8211; the manager was so blown away, he made us a standing offer to sell batteries at cost if we ever decide to go for a brand new pack.  (Probably won&#8217;t!)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: center;"><a href="http://forkenswift.com/offsite/motor-bay-shiny-angle.jpg"><img class="aligncenter" title="Electric car - Under the hood" src="http://forkenswift.com/offsite/motor-bay-shiny-angle.jpg" alt="" width="358" height="241" /></a></p>
<p><strong>9) What was the hardest part?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Technically, the hardest part was deciding how to mate our oddball motor to the transmission, and lining it up perfectly.  (The motor has an internally splined female shaft &#8211; normally you&#8217;d use a male shaft for this kind of thing.)  So we had a machinist fabricate a custom coupler and drill all the holes in the various parts so they lined up 100%.  Then he gave us a discount because he liked what we were doing.</p>
<p><strong>10) Any advice for anyone else considering doing something like this?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">General advice: It&#8217;s not hard to build an affordable medium speed EV.  As long as you understand what you&#8217;re going to end up with and have realistic expectations &#8211; obviously this kind of vehicle doesn&#8217;t work for everyone.  As your &#8220;minimum goals&#8221; for performance (speed/acceleration) and range go up, it gets harder and harder to find inexpensive or used parts that will do the job.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Specific advice: start by surfing the <a href="http://www.evalbum.com">EV Album</a> to see what other people have built to get an idea of what you want to do.  That&#8217;s an incredibe resource.  If you get stuck on specifics, the EV Discussion List (<a href="http://www.evdl.org">EVDL</a>) is the grand-daddy of electric car discussion groups where you can talk to real experts and get help.  Also check out the plucky upstart: <a href="http://www.diyelectriccar.com">DIY Electric Car</a> forum.  And of course, if there&#8217;s an actual EV group in your area, go check it out.</p>
<p><strong>Thanks, Darin!</strong></p>
<p>Links to more info about Project ForkenSwift:</p>
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<li>Web site: <a href="http://www.forkenswift.com">Project ForkenSwift: electric car conversion on a beer budget</a></li>
<li>Follow <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/electric-car-conversion-project-forkenswift-33.html">the project&#8217;s extensive build thread</a> in the EcoModder forum</li>
<li>EV Album entry: <a href="http://www.evalbum.com/1146">Darin&#8217;s 1992 Geo Metro ForkenSwift</a></li>
<li>More <a href="http://forkenswift.com/electric-car-videos.htm">YouTube videos showing this electric car</a></li>
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<p><strong>Next in this series:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&gt; <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-4/">Paul Holmes’ $2200, 1971 VW Beetle</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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<p><em>Electric cars don&#8217;t have to be prohibitively expensive.  In fact, they can be surprisingly affordable </em><em>for a resourceful tinkerer.  In Part 2 of this 5 part series, Ben Nelson answers ten questions posed to him about his $1200, 1995 Geo Metro electric conversion, and the lessons he learned from the experience.</em></p>
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<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/cheap-diy-electric-car/"></a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/cheap-diy-electric-car/">Part 1</a></strong>: So you want a cheap 100% electric car&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/3-dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-25/"><strong>Part 2</strong></a>: Ben Nelson’s $1200, 1995 Geo Metro “Electro-Metro”<br />
<strong> <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-electric-cars-part-3/">Part 3</a></strong>: Darin Cosgrove’s / Ivan Limburg&#8217;s $955, 1992 Geo Metro “Project ForkenSwift”<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-4/"><strong> Part 4</strong></a>: Paul Holmes&#8217; $2200, 1971 VW Beetle<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-5/"><strong> Part 5</strong></a>: Parting thoughts</td>
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1) Tell us about the build cost</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I put about $1200 into the project all together, and that includes buying the car in the first place. I spent $500 to get the car, but then got back $550 in parts that I sold off of it. That means I got the &#8220;glider&#8221; for free.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Other parts were mostly purchased used. Some were salvaged, and a few were donated. I bought my motor for $50 out of a guy&#8217;s garage.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I paid almost $400 for a bunch of work by a local machinist. It was all worth it, as I had NO experience or the right tools for that. But if I had been able to do that work myself, the whole project would have only been around 800 bucks.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Considering that many EV conversion kits start at around $6000, I think I did pretty well. I saw a guy a few weeks back doing a very nice high-end truck conversion. His battery CHARGER cost more than my ENTIRE PROJECT!</p>
<p style="20px;" align="center"><img class="size-full wp-image-658" title="electro-metro-batteries" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/electro-metro-batteries.jpg" alt="The battery pack can be the most expensive single item in a cheap EV.  Finding used ones will save a lot of money." width="427" height="320" /><br />
<em>The battery pack could be the most expensive part of a<br />
cheap EV.  Two of the three EV&#8217;s in this series (including<br />
this one) are running on used batteries.</em></p>
<p><strong>2) How far can it go on a charge?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The farthest I have gone is 20 miles. My batteries are slightly used, but purchased at &#8220;core-charge&#8221; cost. I only have 6, 12V, 100AH batteries, so it&#8217;s a pretty small pack in electric car terms. But considering most my trips are only about 10 miles, it&#8217;s more than enough.</p>
<p><strong>3) How fast does it go?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/electric-cars-fast-just-got-speeding-ticket-5454.html">Fast enough to get a speeding ticket!</a> The car can get up to 45 mph. Typical driving is around 35 mph. Acceleration is good from 0-30 and pretty slow from 35-45.</p>
<p><strong>4) Why did you build it?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I wanted to have a vehicle that was cheap to run. I also just wanted something much more efficient on short trips. Short trips are the absolute worst for internal combustion engine efficiency.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The more I learn about oil production, and its true cost, the less I want to use any of it, period. My car runs on renewable electricity, not power made from coal or oil.</p>
<p><strong>5) Where did you get the idea/motivation?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I don&#8217;t think I ever would have even attempted something like this without at least a little electric vehicle experience under my belt. Last year, I converted a motorcycle to electric. That gave me the confidence to try an automobile.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="size-medium wp-image-659 aligncenter" title="electro-metro-motor" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/electro-metro-motor-300x224.jpg" alt="All three EV's are driven by used forklift motors.  Here's Ben's after he disassembled and cleaned it up, having never worked on an electric motor before." width="300" height="224" /></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em>Each of the cheap EV&#8217;s in the trio is driven by a used<br />
forklift motor.  Ben disassembled and cleaned his,<br />
having never worked on an electric motor before.</em></p>
<p><strong> 6) What do you typically use the car for?<br />
</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The car gets used a lot for all those little errands that always add up: quick trips to the grocery store, to get take-out food, to go to the post office. We also used the car a few times for pickup up and dropping off my wife at her carpool. Take-out pizza seems to be a theme in how I used electric vehicles.  I also used it for hauling wood for my annual bonfire in October.</p>
<p><strong>7) What&#8217;s the coolest response you&#8217;ve had to your car?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I did get a good one a while back: I showed it to the husband of my wife&#8217;s co-worker. After a brief tour, he said &#8220;A knucklehead like you can build something like this? Why can&#8217;t Detroit?&#8221; I just had to ask him right back, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know, why can&#8217;t they?&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">On another occasion, I was riding back from some out of town work with a guy, and was getting dropped off at a parking lot, where I had driven the Electro-Metro to meet him in the morning. I had made it there first, so he hadn&#8217;t seen the car drive yet. During the day, we chit-chatted about what I had done converting a car to electric. When we finally made it back to my car, I told him I would show him the car in action. I was planning on just driving a loop or two around the parking lot. The instant I had the car in reverse, and started backing out of the parking space, he burst out in uncontrollable laughter! I really don&#8217;t think he was expecting how quiet it was, the fact that it could move without an engine, or that I had built the thing!</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Another time, my high-school-school aged younger brother and his three friends showed up un-announced at my house. They came to see the &#8220;cool electric car&#8221;. I was excited to know they thought of my Metro that way. Unfortunately, they were there to see my 1977 Citicar! None the less, since the Metro is a four-seater, I was able to take all three of the friends for a ride around the neighborhood. Try fitting 4 people in a Citicar!</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: center;">httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntwje4ZiFsg</p>
<p><strong>8 ) Tell us something unexpected you learned/discovered from your project.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I guess a big thing is that I didn&#8217;t realize how many new people I would meet, and become friends with. I had no idea how many people were quietly working on similar projects in their backyards and garages. A group of us have an informal club going now, working on each other&#8217;s electric vehicle projects. We have even talked about building a group project, maybe auctioning it off for charity. There&#8217;s lots of amazing people out there, doing incredible work, and it&#8217;s not the sort of thing you hear about on the nightly news.</p>
<p><strong>9) What was the hardest part?</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The hardest part of this project was forging ahead at times where it seemed like I hit a dead-end. A part didn&#8217;t work. I didn&#8217;t know how to do something. I didn&#8217;t have the right tool.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">There have been too many things in my life I haven&#8217;t completed. I wasn&#8217;t going to let this be one of them. I seriously did pull the engine out with LITERALLY a clothes line. I negotiated an unbeatable deal on a second transmission at the junk yard when I found the original wasn&#8217;t going to be usable. I tore down and rebuilt a forklift motor, even though I had never done anything like that before.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">When we learn new things and work on projects like this, we really aren&#8217;t building machines, we are building ourselves. When we get together with friends, we forge bonds of friendship as much as we weld steel.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-697" title="metro-front-3-4" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/metro-front-3-4.jpg" alt="" width="427" height="320" /></p>
<p><strong> 10) Any advice for anyone else considering doing something like this? </strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">You are crazy! But that&#8217;s ok. Just decide to do it. Make the choice, then throw your heart into it. Make new friends. Go to the library. Learn all you can. Get support. Find other people who are interested in it. Join the Electric Auto Association. Brag about it. Revel in success and learn from setbacks. Take pride in something you can do yourself, even if it&#8217;s rusty, even if it only goes 25 mph.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">99% of all the advice I get on my project comes from people who have never done anything similar to it. The other 1% &#8211; they&#8217;re my new friends &#8211; comrades in greasy hands, busted knuckles, and EV grins.</p>
<p><strong>Thanks, Ben!</strong></p>
<p>Here are some links to more info about Ben&#8217;s Electro Metro and his other EV projects:</p>
<ul>
<li>The detailed <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/ben-nelsons-electro-metro-build-thread-848.html">Electro-Metro build thread</a> in the EcoModder forum<a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/ben-nelsons-electro-metro-build-thread-848.html"><br />
</a></li>
<li>Quite a few <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/BenjaminNelson">YouTube videos documenting the conversion</a></li>
<li>Its EV Album entry: <a href="http://www.evalbum.com/1595">Ben Nelson&#8217;s 1996 Geo Metro</a></li>
<li>Here&#8217;s his <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/electric-motorcycle-conversion-599.html">DIY electric motorcycle</a> (and <a href="http://web.mac.com/benhdvideoguy/cycle/Welcome.html" class="broken_link">here</a>, and <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/diy-electric-motorcycle-kicks-butt-blows-up/">here</a>), plus the <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/bens-citicar-5116.html">classic electric CitiCar</a> he picked up this fall to restore</li>
<li>He&#8217;s also working with another EV builder on a video series about the electric conversion of a Dodge Neon.  He posts <a href="http://greencarvideos.blogspot.com/">updates on his blog site</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Next in this series:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&gt; <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-electric-cars-part-3/">Darin Cosgrove&#8217;s / Ivan Limburg&#8217;s $955, 1993 Geo Metro &#8220;ForkenSwift&#8221;</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you want a 100% electric car for commuting or running errands in your town or small city. Maybe you&#8217;ve dreamt of whipsering down the road in a clean, quiet Tesla roadster &#8230; and then you woke up screaming at the thought of the $109,000 U.S. price tag. In that case,  may we present the [...]]]></description>
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<p>So you want a 100% electric car for commuting or running errands in your town or small city.</p>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;ve dreamt of whipsering down the road in a clean, quiet Tesla roadster &#8230; and then you woke up screaming at the thought of the $109,000 U.S. price tag.</p>
<p>In that case,  may we present the other end of the EV spectrum: a trio of street legal electric cars converted from gasoline to battery power for an average price of $1450 each.  (No, that&#8217;s not a typo.)</p>
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<td><strong>In this series&#8230;</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/cheap-diy-electric-car/">Part 1</a></strong>: So you want a cheap 100% electric car&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/3-dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-25/"><strong>Part 2</strong></a>: Ben Nelson’s $1200, 1995 Geo Metro “Electro-Metro”<br />
<strong> <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-electric-cars-part-3/">Part 3</a></strong>: Darin Cosgrove’s / Ivan Limburg&#8217;s $955, 1992 Geo Metro “Project ForkenSwift”<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-4/"><strong> Part 4</strong></a>: Paul Holmes&#8217; $2200, 1971 VW Beetle<br />
<a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-5/"><strong> Part 5</strong></a>: Parting thoughts</td>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></strong></p>
<p>We have written previously about Project ForkenSwift, the <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/a-672-electric-car/">electric Geo Metro</a> made from forklift and golf cart parts for the princely sum of $672 (its build cost has since crept up to  $955 &#8211; details in part 3).  At that time, it might have been easy to dismiss that low-cost grocery getter as an unrealistic one-off, assembled by obsessively cost-conscious builders.</p>
<p>But since then, two more affordable, electric runabouts (their motors also sourced from used forklifts) have hit the streets.  Which lends proof to the idea that electric drive does not have to be prohibitively expensive for the motivated tinkerer (note that we specifically didn&#8217;t say &#8220;experienced&#8221; or &#8220;skilled&#8221; tinkerer).</p>
<p>To be clear, nobody is pretending for a moment that these cars can go even remotely as fast or as far as a Tesla.  But compare on &#8220;cost per range&#8221; or &#8220;cost per MPH&#8221;, and they&#8217;ve got the roadster beat!</p>
<p><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/tesla-comparo1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-626" title="tesla-comparo1" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/tesla-comparo1.jpg" alt="" width="478" height="424" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><em>(Tesla image: <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/tinou/">Tinou Bao</a>)</em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">OK, OK, so the average motorist won&#8217;t be lusting after these cars for their range &amp; performance specs (or their looks, for that matter).   They probably wouldn&#8217;t even meet the current daily needs of the motoring majority.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;medium speed&#8221;, relatively short-range EV&#8217;s can&#8217;t be practical for some drivers.   Used in the context they were designed for, the owners of these cars each report that they are useful and fun vehicles.</p>
<p>In this 5 part series, we&#8217;ll find out how they did it, what lessons they learned along the way, and what advice they have for others thinking about inexpensive EV conversions.</p>
<p><strong>Next, the three EV amigos:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><strong>Part 2:</strong> <strong><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/3-dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-25/">Ben Nelson&#8217;s 1995 Geo Metro &#8220;Electro-Metro&#8221;</a></strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/3-dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-25/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-714" title="1995 Geo Metro electric car" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/teaser-metro-front-3-4.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="150" /></a><br />
Total build cost, including car: $ 1200.00<br />
72 volts / 400 amps<br />
Wisconsin, USA</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><strong>Part 3 &#8211; <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-electric-cars-part-3/">Darin Cosgrove&#8217;s 1992 Geo Metro &#8220;Project ForkenSwift&#8221;</a></strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-electric-cars-part-3/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-715" title="1992 Geo Metro electric car" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/teaser-fs-front-3-4.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="152" /></a><br />
Total build cost, including car: $ 955<br />
48 volts / 400 amps<br />
Brockville, Ontario, Canada</p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 60px;"><strong>Part 4 &#8211; </strong><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-4/"><strong>Paul Holmes&#8217; 1973 VW Beetle</strong></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-4/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-716" title="1973 VW Beetle electric car" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/teaser-vw-profile.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="145" /></a><br />
Lacey, Washington, USA<br />
72 volts / 300 amps<br />
Total build cost, including car: $ 2100</p>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 60px;"><strong>Part 5 &#8211; </strong><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/dirt-cheap-diy-electric-cars-part-5/">Parting thoughts</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every so often, we at EcoModder get asked if we&#8217;re ever going to get into the business of making production, bolt on ecomods. Even though it makes sense, we&#8217;re much more interested in sharing information and encouraging crowd-sourcing within the EcoModder community. A prime example of that can be seen with the MPGuino, a piece [...]]]></description>
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<p>Every so often, we at EcoModder get asked if we&#8217;re ever going to get into the business of making production, bolt on ecomods. Even though it makes sense, we&#8217;re much more interested in sharing information and encouraging crowd-sourcing within the <a href="http://ecomodder.com">EcoModder community</a>. A prime example of that can be seen with the <a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/2008/07/25/mpguino-open-source-diy-fuel-economy-instrumentation-for-under-50/" class="broken_link">MPGuino</a>, a piece of open-source instrumentation that has been developed and supported by some great forum members.</p>
<p>Well, now it seems like <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/aftermarket-underpanel-honda-fit-5944.html">ecomodding has trickled down</a> as far as the aftermarket gas mileage nuts in Japan. These days, for as little as <a href="http://www.kamispeed.com/product_info.php?cPath=1135_2395_2396&amp;products_id=2296&amp;SesId=07d91c5688040f1db6951cf0e61db877">171 bucks</a> you can buy an undertray for your Honda Fit. Undertrays improve aerodynamics and therefore gas mileage, and are a common addition for many ecomodders. However, it&#8217;s rare to see a part with such polish coming out on the aftermarket.</p>
<p>As the original forum poster notes, <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/aftermarket-underpanel-honda-fit-5944.html">it&#8217;s not a direct fit</a>, but it definitely can fit and looks good when installed:</p>
<p><a href="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/aftermarket-undertray-2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-560" title="Aftermarket Undertray" src="http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/aftermarket-undertray-2.jpg" alt="" width="460" height="345" /></a></p>
<p>This of course brings up that age-old question: how much money will you spend to save on gas? Is it really worth $171 bucks for a little bump in fuel economy? Over the life of the car, it&#8217;s likely that you&#8217;ll come out ahead, which is why many manufacturers have been adding larger and more complete undertrays to their cars. However, you&#8217;ve got to consider that this is the aftermarket ecomodding, and the cool factor definitely kicks in. Don&#8217;t you want to be the first on the block with a professionally made undertray?</p>
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