Comments on: GM Engineers Say All Cars Should Have Gas Mileage Displays http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/ Wrench smart - driver smarter - save fuel Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:51:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Rick http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-3551 Rick Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:05:02 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-3551 You talk about a Heads Up Display (HUD) - you are confusing a "Piece of Advice" or "Heads-Up" with the HUD which is a Head Up Display - one head! Originally a fighter pilot's head. Only one head can see the display - not heads! You talk about a Heads Up Display (HUD) – you are confusing a “Piece of Advice” or “Heads-Up” with the HUD which is a Head Up Display – one head! Originally a fighter pilot’s head. Only one head can see the display – not heads!

]]> By: Unforgiven http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-3015 Unforgiven Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:33:06 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-3015 Only vehicle I have had such an economy/fuel tracking gauge on it was a 90 Plymouth Acclaim. Loved the instant and the average economy and it did help with my overall driving style. Currently it seems that many American vehicles only are putting such things in the top of the line entries, instead of offering on all trims. Only vehicle I have had such an economy/fuel tracking gauge on it was a 90 Plymouth Acclaim. Loved the instant and the average economy and it did help with my overall driving style. Currently it seems that many American vehicles only are putting such things in the top of the line entries, instead of offering on all trims.

]]> By: Uncle B http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1845 Uncle B Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:36:06 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1845 GM, Ford and Chryco, the big three, have been shaken to their roots by what they know about Chinese cars. Each company is trying disparately to diversify and get out of the way of the slaughter that is coming from the Asian countries to their industry here in America. On recent visit to China a relative of mine told of roomy, economical, knock-off cars that sell for a tenth of what we pay for domestic cars. These cars get much better mileage, are much stronger by design and are supposed to last a much longer time than ours. They will be hitting our shores very soon, try one you'll like it! See you in the 1930s GM, 'cause that's where you're lost! GM, Ford and Chryco, the big three, have been shaken to their roots by what they know about Chinese cars. Each company is trying disparately to diversify and get out of the way of the slaughter that is coming from the Asian countries to their industry here in America. On recent visit to China a relative of mine told of roomy, economical, knock-off cars that sell for a tenth of what we pay for domestic cars. These cars get much better mileage, are much stronger by design and are supposed to last a much longer time than ours. They will be hitting our shores very soon, try one you’ll like it! See you in the 1930s GM, ’cause that’s where you’re lost!

]]> By: Dh http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1460 Dh Mon, 19 May 2008 23:36:17 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1460 Installing any gauge and knowing the mpg is not the real problem. The root of the problem is the technology used in cars by GM (and many others). I just checked a GM website for vehicles, and on the very front page, there is an advertisement: Power Player: The First-Ever 2008 Pontiac G8 - With 361hp and 385 lb-ft of torque, the first-ever Pontiac G8 GT is the most powerful car under $30K. Do you really need a 361hp/385 lb-ft torque car to drive on a city & highway road? Gas prices are going up and still these marketing guys in GM do not understand what people actually need??? We all know a powerful engine compromises the mileage, a bigger rim (wider tires) reduces mileage, a four wheel drive vehicle gives less mileage even on highways compared to a 2 wheel driven vehicle. But people here seem to be engaged in talking about gauges.. If you have even a chicken brain, and a calculator(if at all you are poor in maths), all cars in this world currently come with a odometer that displays the distance traveled and you know how much gas you filled. Only an american GM mindset will talk about installing new gauge. How much time does it take to do 2 subtractions & a division? less than the time your own fart will take to reach your own senses! Installing any gauge and knowing the mpg is not the real problem. The root of the problem is the technology used in cars by GM (and many others). I just checked a GM website for vehicles, and on the very front page, there is an advertisement:

Power Player: The First-Ever 2008 Pontiac G8
- With 361hp and 385 lb-ft of
torque, the first-ever Pontiac G8
GT is the most powerful car under
$30K.

Do you really need a 361hp/385 lb-ft torque car to drive on a city & highway road? Gas prices are going up and still these marketing guys in GM do not understand what people actually need???

We all know a powerful engine compromises the mileage, a bigger rim (wider tires) reduces mileage, a four wheel drive vehicle gives less mileage even on highways compared to a 2 wheel driven vehicle.

But people here seem to be engaged in talking about gauges..

If you have even a chicken brain, and a calculator(if at all you are poor in maths), all cars in this world currently come with a odometer that displays the distance traveled and you know how much gas you filled. Only an american GM mindset will talk about installing new gauge. How much time does it take to do 2 subtractions & a division? less than the time your own fart will take to reach your own senses!

]]> By: doug l http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1459 doug l Mon, 19 May 2008 22:23:07 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1459 Whatever..the entire debate about gas mileage is about to become moot when the we enter the age of autonomous automobiles which we will likely rent or lease or simply hire to showup and take us where we want to go and be done with 'em. The entire notion of people, and their problems and their cell phones, being in controll of a half ton of metal filled with toxic explosives driving at lethals speeds on public infrastructure is surely an aberration of the times in which we live. Bring on the autonomous eggs! Whatever..the entire debate about gas mileage is about to become moot when the we enter the age of autonomous automobiles which we will likely rent or lease or simply hire to showup and take us where we want to go and be done with ‘em. The entire notion of people, and their problems and their cell phones, being in controll of a half ton of metal filled with toxic explosives driving at lethals speeds on public infrastructure is surely an aberration of the times in which we live. Bring on the autonomous eggs!

]]> By: Bob http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1446 Bob Sun, 18 May 2008 20:15:48 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1446 If your vehicle is newer than 1996 your more than likely have an on board computer which has the ability to display your MPG plus a lot more data....buy a Scan Guage....plug it in an go....I use one on my 1997 Land Cruiser If your vehicle is newer than 1996 your more than likely have an on board computer which has the ability to display your MPG plus a lot more data….buy a Scan Guage….plug it in an go….I use one on my 1997 Land Cruiser

]]> By: Auto Clerks » GM engineers speak up for installing MPG displays in every vehicle http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1443 Auto Clerks » GM engineers speak up for installing MPG displays in every vehicle Sun, 18 May 2008 16:03:22 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1443 [...] recently spoke with some GM engineers about HCCI technology when the discussion turned to MPG displays. The engineers realize that these [...] [...] recently spoke with some GM engineers about HCCI technology when the discussion turned to MPG displays. The engineers realize that these [...]

]]> By: GM engineers speak up for installing MPG displays in every vehicle » Hybrid News http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1441 GM engineers speak up for installing MPG displays in every vehicle » Hybrid News Sun, 18 May 2008 14:55:00 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1441 [...] recently spoke with some GM engineers about HCCI technology when the discussion turned to MPG displays. The engineers realize that these [...] [...] recently spoke with some GM engineers about HCCI technology when the discussion turned to MPG displays. The engineers realize that these [...]

]]> By: Ben http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1436 Ben Sun, 18 May 2008 00:27:55 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1436 @Ren Yes the scan gauge is very nice, well worth the price! @Ren
Yes the scan gauge is very nice, well worth the price!

]]> By: Eric http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1434 Eric Sat, 17 May 2008 18:27:43 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1434 I own a 04 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP(GM Product) that has a gas mileage guage from the factory. Since I have started trying to "beat" it I have increased my fuel economy about 20%. I have went from 21-22mpg to 26mpg(Car is supercharged so it does not get great mileage to start). I think that this technology is very handy and that it should be mandatory in all vehicles in the US. It displays real time and average MPG and I find myself regularly switching between them to get the best mileage. It very rewarding both monetarily and psychologically to keep trying to outdo my previous mileage. I own a 04 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP(GM Product) that has a gas mileage guage from the factory. Since I have started trying to “beat” it I have increased my fuel economy about 20%. I have went from 21-22mpg to 26mpg(Car is supercharged so it does not get great mileage to start). I think that this technology is very handy and that it should be mandatory in all vehicles in the US. It displays real time and average MPG and I find myself regularly switching between them to get the best mileage. It very rewarding both monetarily and psychologically to keep trying to outdo my previous mileage.

]]> By: ej00807 http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1428 ej00807 Fri, 16 May 2008 21:29:45 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1428 Should have been a government mandate years ago as it directly impact environmental emisions and encourages fuel savings. Another safety mandate to ask GM engineers about what they think of adding tire inflation monitoring. This can be done easily with the tilt balance sensors already built into stability control systems and can prevent many yearly deaths cause by blow-outs and also help to prevent wasted fuel. In general, I don't support mandates or federal interference with business. But lets face it. Had we not done it, GM would likely still be making cas without seatbelts. Consumers aren't going to spend on retrofiting for what industry has neglected. Should have been a government mandate years ago as it directly impact environmental emisions and encourages fuel savings.

Another safety mandate to ask GM engineers about what they think of adding tire inflation monitoring. This can be done easily with the tilt balance sensors already built into stability control systems and can prevent many yearly deaths cause by blow-outs and also help to prevent wasted fuel.

In general, I don’t support mandates or federal interference with business. But lets face it. Had we not done it, GM would likely still be making cas without seatbelts.

Consumers aren’t going to spend on retrofiting for what industry has neglected.

]]> By: fiatlux http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1427 fiatlux Fri, 16 May 2008 20:00:45 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1427 This makes absolute sense. It would be nice to know how much fuel is being consumed and how much it is costing me for my commute or trip to the grocery store. This should be mandated on every new car manufactured. This makes absolute sense. It would be nice to know how much fuel is being consumed and how much it is costing me for my commute or trip to the grocery store. This should be mandated on every new car manufactured.

]]> By: Chat Marchet News Digest » GM Engineers Say All Cars Should Have Gas Mileage Displays http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1423 Chat Marchet News Digest » GM Engineers Say All Cars Should Have Gas Mileage Displays Fri, 16 May 2008 05:18:39 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1423 [...] Get the whole story here… This entry was posted on Friday, May 16th, 2008 at 2:17 am and is filed under le Chat Marchet. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...] [...] Get the whole story here… This entry was posted on Friday, May 16th, 2008 at 2:17 am and is filed under le Chat Marchet. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...]

]]> By: Tire Directory » Blog Archive » GM Engineers Say All Cars Should Have Gas Mileage Displays http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1422 Tire Directory » Blog Archive » GM Engineers Say All Cars Should Have Gas Mileage Displays Fri, 16 May 2008 05:17:24 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1422 [...] an entire tank of gas in commute traffic. (I usually get 47 mpg average per tank when not trying) read more | digg [...] [...] an entire tank of gas in commute traffic. (I usually get 47 mpg average per tank when not trying) read more | digg [...]

]]> By: Ren http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1418 Ren Thu, 15 May 2008 19:09:27 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1418 It's true, it would help a lot. It's so easy you can even add it RIGHT now to any car. Check out scangauge.com for example. Works on any car made after 1996. No I have no connection to this company other than that I bought this product and it works great. It’s true, it would help a lot. It’s so easy you can even add it RIGHT now to any car. Check out scangauge.com for example. Works on any car made after 1996. No I have no connection to this company other than that I bought this product and it works great.

]]> By: Chuck http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1417 Chuck Thu, 15 May 2008 17:43:46 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1417 Couldn't agree more, sure is a great addon. I wonder if they could also incorporate the efficiency of fuel burnt (incomplete vs complete) for different driving patterns as well. May be that will also make people aware of how much they're polluting the environment while driving and hopefully encourages people to shift to cleaner fuels :-) Couldn’t agree more, sure is a great addon. I wonder if they could also incorporate the efficiency of fuel burnt (incomplete vs complete) for different driving patterns as well. May be that will also make people aware of how much they’re polluting the environment while driving and hopefully encourages people to shift to cleaner fuels :-)

]]> By: Gregor http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1416 Gregor Thu, 15 May 2008 17:36:14 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1416 All cars should have two mileage displays: a small one on the dash and a large one on the rear window, facing out. All cars should have two mileage displays: a small one on the dash and a large one on the rear window, facing out.

]]> By: Andy http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1413 Andy Thu, 15 May 2008 17:18:48 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1413 Engineers fix problems, tell it like it is. Marketing creates problems, tells it like it would be nice to be. Engineers fix problems, tell it like it is. Marketing creates problems, tells it like it would be nice to be.

]]> By: Steve http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1412 Steve Thu, 15 May 2008 17:14:04 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1412 My 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis had a gas mileage gauge. I don't know why all cars don't have them now. They don't even need to be separate gauges. They could share a display with the odometer or clock, so you don't have to see your MPG if you don't want to. That way you have the option to know, but if you drive something like an Escalade, you won't have to get depressed watching your abysmal gas mileage. My 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis had a gas mileage gauge.

I don’t know why all cars don’t have them now. They don’t even need to be separate gauges. They could share a display with the odometer or clock, so you don’t have to see your MPG if you don’t want to. That way you have the option to know, but if you drive something like an Escalade, you won’t have to get depressed watching your abysmal gas mileage.

]]> By: Jonathan http://ecomodder.com/blog/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/comment-page-1/#comment-1411 Jonathan Thu, 15 May 2008 17:11:34 +0000 http://www.ecomodder.com/blog/2008/05/14/gm-engineers-say-all-cars-should-have-gas-mileage-display/#comment-1411 I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons as to NOT include the display would be that it could expose the advertised MPG ratings as false, or at least misleading. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the reasons as to NOT include the display would be that it could expose the advertised MPG ratings as false, or at least misleading.

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