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		<title>By: brian krushell</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/is-obama-a-shill-for-the-ethanol-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-3689</link>
		<dc:creator>brian krushell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is everyone talking about corn and sugar cane ethanol.  There is so much wetlands or unusable land in the U.S. that can be utilized to grow cattails. Cattails produce more ethanol than corn or potatoes, which takes no land away from food crops. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is everyone talking about corn and sugar cane ethanol.  There is so much wetlands or unusable land in the U.S. that can be utilized to grow cattails. Cattails produce more ethanol than corn or potatoes, which takes no land away from food crops. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s Vice-Presidential Running Mate&#8211;Al Gore? &#171; Pronk Palisades</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama&#8217;s Vice-Presidential Running Mate&#8211;Al Gore? &#171; Pronk Palisades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joshua Key</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is a wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing.

The U.S. Farm Industry wants protection from outside competition. That&#039;s what it means for Obama to subsidize the corn industry. That&#039;s why they tax Brazilian farmer .54 cents a gallon for superior, sugar-based ethanol.

This puts developing world farmers off their lands, out of their livelihoods. For every ton of U.S. corn we subsidize, we push 2 Mexicans off his farm. That&#039;s a reality. Obama helps the rich corporate farms at the expense of the developing countries. Maybe you don&#039;t care about that, but I do.

Oxfam.org

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing.</p>
<p>The U.S. Farm Industry wants protection from outside competition. That&#8217;s what it means for Obama to subsidize the corn industry. That&#8217;s why they tax Brazilian farmer .54 cents a gallon for superior, sugar-based ethanol.</p>
<p>This puts developing world farmers off their lands, out of their livelihoods. For every ton of U.S. corn we subsidize, we push 2 Mexicans off his farm. That&#8217;s a reality. Obama helps the rich corporate farms at the expense of the developing countries. Maybe you don&#8217;t care about that, but I do.</p>
<p>Oxfam.org</p>
<p>Maketradefair.org</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to those who corrected my Illinois/Indiana mistake. Bad on my part, :)

To those who wish to attack me for &quot;slandering&quot; Obama or ethanol, I think you should consider several things. While cellulosic ethanol does show promise, do you see it as a final solution or as another transistion stage? How many transistion stages do we need to go through? How much industry and infrastructure will be built around these transistions, and how many decades will they last? Most of all, consider the comparative advantage of spending billions on ethanol and building that industry compared to spending that same money on research for battery electric vehicles.

Electric vehicles are not only more efficient than internal combustion engines, but wall sockets are in every home and are easy to add to parking spots on the street and in lots. While it&#039;s true that the grid would have to be beefed up for widespread use, the grid in many parts of the use is already buckling under increased demand, and much of the EV use would come during off peak. Compare this to the prospect of continued production of ethanol and maintenance of things like gas stations, which there are many of.

I don&#039;t hate ethanol, but, like hydrogen, I think that the money being invested in it is inappropriate considering the other, better solutions currently on the table. Therefore, I think it&#039;s good to understand not Obama&#039;s position, but possibly why he takes this position. As wel come into the general election and both candidates float closers towards the middle, we should look beyond positions and towards motivations. There are plenty of people would pick a candidate and then believe anything he or she says as some sort of divine proclamation, without thinking more closely. I&#039;m not trying to advocate positions, but examination of the issues. 

Thank you all for the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to those who corrected my Illinois/Indiana mistake. Bad on my part, <img src='http://ecomodder.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To those who wish to attack me for &#8220;slandering&#8221; Obama or ethanol, I think you should consider several things. While cellulosic ethanol does show promise, do you see it as a final solution or as another transistion stage? How many transistion stages do we need to go through? How much industry and infrastructure will be built around these transistions, and how many decades will they last? Most of all, consider the comparative advantage of spending billions on ethanol and building that industry compared to spending that same money on research for battery electric vehicles.</p>
<p>Electric vehicles are not only more efficient than internal combustion engines, but wall sockets are in every home and are easy to add to parking spots on the street and in lots. While it&#8217;s true that the grid would have to be beefed up for widespread use, the grid in many parts of the use is already buckling under increased demand, and much of the EV use would come during off peak. Compare this to the prospect of continued production of ethanol and maintenance of things like gas stations, which there are many of.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hate ethanol, but, like hydrogen, I think that the money being invested in it is inappropriate considering the other, better solutions currently on the table. Therefore, I think it&#8217;s good to understand not Obama&#8217;s position, but possibly why he takes this position. As wel come into the general election and both candidates float closers towards the middle, we should look beyond positions and towards motivations. There are plenty of people would pick a candidate and then believe anything he or she says as some sort of divine proclamation, without thinking more closely. I&#8217;m not trying to advocate positions, but examination of the issues. </p>
<p>Thank you all for the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A shill for ethanol 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A shill for ethanol<br />
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion!  I would like to throw in my two cents as an engineer (with no affiliation to any oil companies, etc.). 

1. Jumping to complain about people&#039;s affiliations (with lobbyists, oil companies, etc, while pertinent to review, clouds the issues.  It doesn&#039;t disprove any claims; it merely calls the motivation for the claims to question.  If you want to argue against them, try attacking the evidence, not the person signing the paycheck.  Besides, who signs the paychecks of environmental lobbyists?  Do you want to discredit them too?
 
2. While global warming is happening, and human released CO2 is part of the increase in global CO2 levels, having read many scientific papers on the topic, and having analyzed the data myself, I am an independent skeptic as to whether (a) CO2 causes global warming, and (b) humans are the cause of increased CO2.  Historical records indicate that when temperature goes up, CO2 goes up a short while later.  I don&#039;t have evidence to claim this isn&#039;t happening, but the cause/effect relationship is difficult to distinguish based on the existing evidence - skeptics should not be dismissed.  Policy decisions to eliminate our biggest industrial byproduct should be based on firm evidence, more firm than is currently published.  If you understand how scientific modeling works, you&#039;ll understand the challenges when working with a system as large as global climate - there&#039;s little basis for testing the model, since it&#039;s a whole planet and over such a long period of time.

3. It is indisputable that our dependence on foreign oil is expensive for consumers, affects the quality of life in oil-rich countries, and has helped inspire substantial numbers of military conflicts (the first gulf war being a direct example - that&#039;s why Iraq invaded Kuwait).  This is an unambiguous motivation to try to find alternatives, and it happens to be inline with the anti-CO2-emission agenda.   Therefore, the environmental debate is trumped by a clear point that agrees with anti-CO2-emission.

4. Nobody is saying that ethanol will only come from corn.  That&#039;s the current main technology.  The current technology lacks efficiency, but it is constantly improving.  Beyond that, look for switchgrass based ethanol and many other fuels that come more from biomass in the near future.  There will be hurdles, but imagine the ability to eliminate debates about oil-based foreign policy, polluting oil wells, and excessive CO2 emission.  Could be great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion!  I would like to throw in my two cents as an engineer (with no affiliation to any oil companies, etc.). </p>
<p>1. Jumping to complain about people&#8217;s affiliations (with lobbyists, oil companies, etc, while pertinent to review, clouds the issues.  It doesn&#8217;t disprove any claims; it merely calls the motivation for the claims to question.  If you want to argue against them, try attacking the evidence, not the person signing the paycheck.  Besides, who signs the paychecks of environmental lobbyists?  Do you want to discredit them too?</p>
<p>2. While global warming is happening, and human released CO2 is part of the increase in global CO2 levels, having read many scientific papers on the topic, and having analyzed the data myself, I am an independent skeptic as to whether (a) CO2 causes global warming, and (b) humans are the cause of increased CO2.  Historical records indicate that when temperature goes up, CO2 goes up a short while later.  I don&#8217;t have evidence to claim this isn&#8217;t happening, but the cause/effect relationship is difficult to distinguish based on the existing evidence &#8211; skeptics should not be dismissed.  Policy decisions to eliminate our biggest industrial byproduct should be based on firm evidence, more firm than is currently published.  If you understand how scientific modeling works, you&#8217;ll understand the challenges when working with a system as large as global climate &#8211; there&#8217;s little basis for testing the model, since it&#8217;s a whole planet and over such a long period of time.</p>
<p>3. It is indisputable that our dependence on foreign oil is expensive for consumers, affects the quality of life in oil-rich countries, and has helped inspire substantial numbers of military conflicts (the first gulf war being a direct example &#8211; that&#8217;s why Iraq invaded Kuwait).  This is an unambiguous motivation to try to find alternatives, and it happens to be inline with the anti-CO2-emission agenda.   Therefore, the environmental debate is trumped by a clear point that agrees with anti-CO2-emission.</p>
<p>4. Nobody is saying that ethanol will only come from corn.  That&#8217;s the current main technology.  The current technology lacks efficiency, but it is constantly improving.  Beyond that, look for switchgrass based ethanol and many other fuels that come more from biomass in the near future.  There will be hurdles, but imagine the ability to eliminate debates about oil-based foreign policy, polluting oil wells, and excessive CO2 emission.  Could be great!</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.    You got his state wrong and thus your entire thesis that he&#039;s from the &quot;2nd largest corn producer&quot; is also wrong&quot;.
2.     Obama is for alternative energy of all types that will prevent us from making our enemies rich which you never mention.
3.     Obama is for &quot;cellulosic&quot; ethanol and in the future converting our trash into ethanol.  He doesn&#039;t say &quot;Corn&quot; ethanol.  But you fail to make that distinction.
4.     You also don&#039;t realize that America needs every non-oil based energy source we can get so we don&#039;t ever have to repeat $4 and potential $8 gasoline ever again.  It is only Obama who will wean us off oil and protect American by stopping the giving of Trillions to the middle east for oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.    You got his state wrong and thus your entire thesis that he&#8217;s from the &#8220;2nd largest corn producer&#8221; is also wrong&#8221;.<br />
2.     Obama is for alternative energy of all types that will prevent us from making our enemies rich which you never mention.<br />
3.     Obama is for &#8220;cellulosic&#8221; ethanol and in the future converting our trash into ethanol.  He doesn&#8217;t say &#8220;Corn&#8221; ethanol.  But you fail to make that distinction.<br />
4.     You also don&#8217;t realize that America needs every non-oil based energy source we can get so we don&#8217;t ever have to repeat $4 and potential $8 gasoline ever again.  It is only Obama who will wean us off oil and protect American by stopping the giving of Trillions to the middle east for oil.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one thing you might want to keep in mind. All of the studies attacking corn-based ethanol just happen to be funded by oil companies. The independent studies show corn-ethanol as a net gain, although not as effective as cane ethanol. Moreover, supporting corn ethanol as a transitional measure establishes the infrastructure needed for biofuels. So, while it&#039;s not perfect, it actually makes sense for right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one thing you might want to keep in mind. All of the studies attacking corn-based ethanol just happen to be funded by oil companies. The independent studies show corn-ethanol as a net gain, although not as effective as cane ethanol. Moreover, supporting corn ethanol as a transitional measure establishes the infrastructure needed for biofuels. So, while it&#8217;s not perfect, it actually makes sense for right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Obama believes ethanol is actually a solution to the problem, much like the people who use sugar cane ethanol in Brazil. Corn ethanol is not as efficient to use as sugarcane ethanol, but when the US is only using 2% of its fuel based on it, why can&#039;t we look to the alternative? It&#039;s a lot cheaper than bringing in oil from the Middle East. 

The Brazilians are in fact already using 40% of their fuel based on ethanol. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil ) And while I cannot get back to the exact source, they simply want to help us develop ethanol production so that a market for ethanol is created. They really don&#039;t care about giving us their fuel anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Obama believes ethanol is actually a solution to the problem, much like the people who use sugar cane ethanol in Brazil. Corn ethanol is not as efficient to use as sugarcane ethanol, but when the US is only using 2% of its fuel based on it, why can&#8217;t we look to the alternative? It&#8217;s a lot cheaper than bringing in oil from the Middle East. </p>
<p>The Brazilians are in fact already using 40% of their fuel based on ethanol. ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil</a> ) And while I cannot get back to the exact source, they simply want to help us develop ethanol production so that a market for ethanol is created. They really don&#8217;t care about giving us their fuel anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope he is a shill for ethanol. Corn ethanol is only a transition ethanol. Cattails and sweet sorghum are much better. Industrial Hemp is even better. 
5% of unusable farmland could meet our transport needs with Industrial Hemp. Henry Ford wanted our cars to run on ethanol John d Rockefeller had other ideas. He gave the equivalent of 1bil to the Womens Temperance League to outlaw ethanol production. Hence our dependence now on oil.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope he is a shill for ethanol. Corn ethanol is only a transition ethanol. Cattails and sweet sorghum are much better. Industrial Hemp is even better.<br />
5% of unusable farmland could meet our transport needs with Industrial Hemp. Henry Ford wanted our cars to run on ethanol John d Rockefeller had other ideas. He gave the equivalent of 1bil to the Womens Temperance League to outlaw ethanol production. Hence our dependence now on oil.<br />
Learn here <a href="http://peswiki.com/index.php/Review:Alcohol_can_be_a_Gas" rel="nofollow">http://peswiki.com/index.php/Review:Alcohol_can_be_a_Gas</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jew3ah24Zj4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jew3ah24Zj4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Is Obama a Shill for the Ethanol Lobby? &#171; Crystal Clear Conservative</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama supports cellulosic ethanol production from corn stocks, cobs, and any other left over plant biomass. This is critically different than producing ethanol from corn kernels as it has the potential for a &gt;15:1 return on energy output.  Almost everyone supports cellulosic ethanol production, both economists and environmentalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama supports cellulosic ethanol production from corn stocks, cobs, and any other left over plant biomass. This is critically different than producing ethanol from corn kernels as it has the potential for a &gt;15:1 return on energy output.  Almost everyone supports cellulosic ethanol production, both economists and environmentalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Go to read my opinion &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Obama a Shill for the Ethanol Lobby?</title>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be too enthusiastic about ethanol as a fuel. We tried that in europe and it ended up with Farmers growing crops for Biodiesel and not for food.  Pasta crisis!

Aren&#039;t you concerned that diverting corn harvests away from food production will drive up the cost of the most basic food stuffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be too enthusiastic about ethanol as a fuel. We tried that in europe and it ended up with Farmers growing crops for Biodiesel and not for food.  Pasta crisis!</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t you concerned that diverting corn harvests away from food production will drive up the cost of the most basic food stuffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/is-obama-a-shill-for-the-ethanol-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please look up David Blume and watch a video or two with him.  He is a long time ethanol advocate.  An advocate of small scale decentralized ethanol production that fits into traditional sustainable farming, sewage treatment in cities, and countless other sources.  There is diffinately a smear campaign going on by big oil and other powers that don&#039;t want decentralized fuel production.  Just take a look and be your own judge.  Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please look up David Blume and watch a video or two with him.  He is a long time ethanol advocate.  An advocate of small scale decentralized ethanol production that fits into traditional sustainable farming, sewage treatment in cities, and countless other sources.  There is diffinately a smear campaign going on by big oil and other powers that don&#8217;t want decentralized fuel production.  Just take a look and be your own judge.  Gary</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/is-obama-a-shill-for-the-ethanol-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>which oil company do you work for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>which oil company do you work for?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/is-obama-a-shill-for-the-ethanol-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-2033</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might find that Sen. Obama is from Illinois, not Indiana.  

Your primary thesis is intriguing none the less.  His relationship with ADM and former Sen. Daschle from South Dakota bear some scrutiny.

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might find that Sen. Obama is from Illinois, not Indiana.  </p>
<p>Your primary thesis is intriguing none the less.  His relationship with ADM and former Sen. Daschle from South Dakota bear some scrutiny.</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Greenpointer</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/is-obama-a-shill-for-the-ethanol-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-2032</link>
		<dc:creator>Greenpointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nearly impossible for me to put any faith in the government now that we&#039;ve all suffered so much negligence and abuse these past 8 years.  Rumblings of these types of potentially harmful fuel overhaul projects scares me and makes me even less hopeful that the new President will even begin to make a dent in this tangled contradiction of a country.  Not to bum everyone out today but do you think America is already too far gone for one man to lift us out of this mess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nearly impossible for me to put any faith in the government now that we&#8217;ve all suffered so much negligence and abuse these past 8 years.  Rumblings of these types of potentially harmful fuel overhaul projects scares me and makes me even less hopeful that the new President will even begin to make a dent in this tangled contradiction of a country.  Not to bum everyone out today but do you think America is already too far gone for one man to lift us out of this mess?</p>
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		<title>By: n8thegr8</title>
		<link>http://ecomodder.com/blog/is-obama-a-shill-for-the-ethanol-lobby/comment-page-1/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>n8thegr8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better than a shill for offshore drilling I say...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better than a shill for offshore drilling I say&#8230;</p>
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