[moonmonkey]

i installed these pizza pans on my echo's steel rims in about two hours, the last two of them in the dark, i saw other guys velcro'ing,chaulking,gluing tierapping these things on ,(im too paranoid for that). so i drilled 1/4 inch holes aligned up with the lugnut holes ,then inserted the 1/4" x3/4" long bolts thru the back side of the rim and put a nut on the front side to hold it into place. Then centered the pans on top of the rims and hit the pans with a hammer gently to make marks where i needed to drill holes in the pan.all but one of them is almost perfecty positioned . and the one thats not is darned close. there is another more accurate method than sighting them im sure,but if your careful you can get them aligned right.then just use locknuts or regular ones and locktite to keep them from coming unscrewed. it takes about 2-4hrs to do the job depending how perfect you want them. The pans were discarded from a pizza joint so i dont have a source for those, my echo has 14 inch rims. all you need is a drill and maybe a hacksaw if your bolts stickout too far, more mods coming soon.