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Old 11-14-2010, 03:14 AM   #149 (permalink)
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42 for the cruze eco???? Erm our cruze base model 1.6 NA gets 42!! ffs didn't get much value on that overtime then General!
What's interesting is that the Cruze Eco is "new EPA MPG" figures. Here is the 2003 Honda Civic HX manual :



When I "back extrapolate" the new MPG to the old MPG (yellow background numbers), the Cruze compares favorably to the Honda Civic HX :



The Cruze Eco is about 3000 lbs and was put on a diet to get there :

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More than 42 changes were made on the Eco to reduce weight. It weighs in at 3,009 pounds (1,365 kg), compared to the 3,223 pounds (1,462 kg) of the Cruze 1LT. The diet program for the Cruze challenged engineers to look at all aspects of the vehicle's construction, including hundreds of weld flanges on the vehicle. They were reduced 1 mm to 2 mm in length, which saved several pounds, while the sheet metal gauge thickness was reduced by about 0.1 mm in select components. This saved weight while preserving structural integrity.
Lighter wheels and tires are used on the Eco. They're stylish, polished 17-inch alloy units with Goodyear tires that weigh only 36.5 pounds (16.6 kg) apiece. That's 5.3 pounds (2.4 kg) less than the 16-inch wheel/tires of the Cruze 1LT for a complete savings to the vehicle of 21.2 pounds (9.6 kg).
The 7th generation Honda Civic was anywhere from 2400 to 2700 lbs. I *think* the HX manual was also on a diet and came in at 2436 lbs :

2003 Honda Civic - UsedCars.com

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