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Originally Posted by TheEnemy
TSI Data
Take look at the TSI reconstruction, keep in mind that yes there is a lot of lead lag in the system like James stated.
NASA - Solar Variability: Striking a Balance with Climate Change
Says the slight increase has increased global temperatures by 25% of what has been measured.
NASA - NASA Study Finds Increasing Solar Trend That Can Change Climate
Reports 0.1% increase over the last 24 years...
All of them play down how much warming the sun is responsible, but if you look back where I calculated the solar influence without feedbacks to the CO2 influence with feedbacks. Yes solar activity did decrease to a relatively low solar minimum, but we are now into the next solar maximum, which if you look at my first link you will see it is shaping up to be warmer on average than the last solar maximum (which set record temperatures).
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From a several pages back.
Neil, remember I said that video was accurate, it was biased, in that it was only willing to point out the deniers side, making it seem as though they are the only ones involved in discrediting people, science, the facts. I had even commented before when commenting on one of suspects post that its usually only that easy when dealing with deniers.
At least the first email "climate gate" was an accident by the univercity when they went to archive it they put it on the wrong server or something like that. The others I don't know. If it was hacking then yes it would be illegal, but either way the truth is Mann was involved in limiting what information was available to those who didn't agree.
In addition to the satelites they also use airborn radar systems to do higher detail measurements.