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Old 11-16-2017, 04:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't mind somebody going slow, but around here what drives me crazy is this. They drive that slow speed but as soon as there is a passing lane they temporarily add 10-15 mph to that speed so passing involves something like 85 mph to even get 1/2 The cars by. Then as soon as the lane ends back to the slow. I drive slow as well sometimes and will slow down even more on a passing opportunity to let people by.

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Old 11-16-2017, 05:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I hypermile my Volt every day, and I hypermiled a couple of Insights and a Festiva for years before the Volt, but I don't do it at the expense of all the other drivers around me. And I'll be the first to admit that I'm not above going around somebody doing 10 mph under the speed limit with cars piling up behind them.

I squeeze every mile I can out of my daily EV charge while maintaining enough speed to be as courteous as possible to the drivers around me, and I do very well without making a bad name for hypermilers
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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And you don't have the common (ok, not so common :-() courtesy to pull over and let them by? When one of those people stuck behind you is having a really bad day, succumbs to road rage, and puts a couple of bullets through your rear window... Well, if I'm on the jury, he'll get off with justifiable homicide.
It. Doesn't. Work.

There is always another.

And another.

You'd spend all day on the shoulder.

I could go 20 over and someone back there would see me and have to pass. I guess it's a "winning" thing.

I go 50 practically no matter what. The vast majority of the time passing is permitted. So pass when safe or stay back there and get used to it. It's not my fault breeders have filled up the roads so much passing opportunities are not unlimited. I. Don't. Care.

I sure hope I never need the services of a jury of Duhmericans. Oof-Da.
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I set up 3 different dashboards with the Fusion app. On the first page I set up some engine temperature gauges as I was doing some grill blocking experiments with cardboard and wanted to see the difference. Sure enough the engine got hot quicker but the temperature continued climbing and it made me a little uncomfortable... On the second dashboard I just have two simple gauges set up, one to show real time mpg and one that shows total average mpg. The last dash board shows me average mpg per trip.
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I don't travel at 50 mph for fuel economy. I have always driven at 50 mph, even in my old Volvo automatic, where fuel economy was the last thing on my mind. Scotland's roads are twisty, undulating, and with no run off area, so you have to be ready for any eventualities. The max permitted speed on any two lane in the UK is 60 mph, and lorries over 7.5 tonnes are limited to a maximum speed of 40 mph in Scotland (with one exception - the A9) and 50 mph in the rest of the UK. There are great lengths of two lane where the limit is 50 for everyone and even a lot of dual carriageway and motorways have a 50 mph limit.
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So some gun toting psychopath's right to travel at his preferred rate of speed is more valuable than my right to... travel at my preferred rate of speed?
1) You - and everyone else - do have the right to do things which make you a discourteous jackass.

2) Gun-toting psychopaths don't generally care about your rights, any more than a momma bear cares about yours if you get between her and her cubs.
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It. Doesn't. Work.

There is always another.

And another.

You'd spend all day on the shoulder.
Not the case around here. They have turnouts on the 2-lane roads, with signs saying "Slow traffic must use turnouts" (not that a lot do). So when I go slower than other people*, I can slip into the turnout, let them by, and usually don't even have to slow down much.

*Which is usually the case when I'm driving the Insight, at least uphill, or the truck, 'cause the dog doesn't like sliding around on the bench seat in the hairpin turns. He really prefers to ride in the Miata, though :-)
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Not the case around here. They have turnouts on the 2-lane roads, with signs saying "Slow traffic must use turnouts" (not that a lot do). So when I go slower than other people*, I can slip into the turnout, let them by, and usually don't even have to slow down much.

*Which is usually the case when I'm driving the Insight, at least uphill, or the truck, 'cause the dog doesn't like sliding around on the bench seat in the hairpin turns. He really prefers to ride in the Miata, though :-)
Well that isn't the case around here.

Since I'M the one operating within the law and those wanting to go faster most likely are not, tell me again about who's being discourteous?
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In MN if there is no posted minimum speed, there is no minimum speed.

There is a statute regarding obstructing traffic flow but it is so open to interpretation as to render it useless (at least, I don't get it).
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I don't mind somebody going slow, but around here what drives me crazy is this. They drive that slow speed but as soon as there is a passing lane they temporarily add 10-15 mph to that speed so passing involves something like 85 mph to even get 1/2 The cars by. Then as soon as the lane ends back to the slow. I drive slow as well sometimes and will slow down even more on a passing opportunity to let people by.
Had a UPS truck do that to me last night. He out accelerated me when he was in the lane next to me, was going 10 over the limit, then when the lanes merged to 1 lane, he wanted to do 10 under the limit. I got to eat massive amounts of spray from his tires while he took corners like a pansy.

I often set my cruise during passing lanes to ensure that no emotion is involved in the speed I travel. Obviously most everyone else just succumbs to their emotion because 85% of drivers will do well over the speed limit during a passing opportunity, and do well under the speed limit immediately following. Heck, I've had people add 35 MPH just to prevent me from passing only to drop 10 MPH below the limit once I no longer could.

When I get an EV, I'll go as fast as the law will allow me to get away with. Don't really care about EV efficiency as much when it's so cheap, and renewable.

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