08-04-2008, 04:56 PM
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McCain mocks Obama about Tire Inflation
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08-04-2008, 05:40 PM
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I don't give Obama much political credence - he's a frosh congressman, he doesn't bring much in the way of experience to the party and only recently has he started talking in concrete terms beyond just "Hope" and "Change."
But it's a pragmatic statement. Check your tire pressure. Sure, laugh it off, but go check it anyway. We'll wait.
It was HOW far off? Wow. Pumped them up, right? Good. Okay, now drive a few tankfuls. We'll wait.
Hey, went farther between fillups, didn't it? Yeah, thought so.
So, McCain should keep his mockery to himself. It can't be said enough to check tire pressure, because so many people simply don't take it seriously. I'm saying it here, folks: CHECK YOUR TIRE PRESSURE! If a bunch of nutjobs all geeky over fuel mileage keep a religious tab on their tire pressure, then you can be damned sure that having it right makes a difference.
My tire pressure is 44 pounds all around. Checked it this morning.
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08-04-2008, 05:48 PM
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Hm - drilling in Anwar by 2020: 680,000 barrels of oil a day
Barrels saved if *everyone* adjusted their tire pressure: Around 800,000 barrels a day *now*.
Looks like even political blogs are weighing in, and saying that "Yeah, just pressuring your tires isn't enough - but it's a damn good start":
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08-04-2008, 06:26 PM
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The way I heard it is that if we kept our tires inflated and our cars tunned up we would not need to drill for oil.....baloney!
I still remember when he said that he had just visited 57 states and still had one more to go!
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08-04-2008, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ATaylorRacing
The way I heard it is that if we kept our tires inflated and our cars tunned up we would not need to drill for oil.....baloney!
I still remember when he said that he had just visited 57 states and still had one more to go!
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Rather than go by "the way you heard it", how about if we actually pay attention to what the guy said.
Tire inflation *alone* would make the "let's drill Anwar" argument moot. Increasing hybrids and mandating plug-in hybrids would reduce the need to drill oil even further. Increasing the solar, wind, geo in combination with plug-in hybrid would reduce that need even further.
I don't think either McCain or Obama propose one thing to be the solution to all things - but let's face it, *everyone* doing a simple, small thing like driving better, inflating the tires, having a tuned engine would go a hell of a lot further than complaining about the high price of oil.
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08-04-2008, 08:17 PM
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Oil companies can't sell air, rebublicans cant tax air, so they won't admit that extra inflation helps.
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08-04-2008, 08:18 PM
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I'm not going to complain. If gas went from $4 to $10/gal. it would cost me an extra $150 per month. I can handle it. In fact I welcome it.
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08-04-2008, 08:28 PM
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If fuel prices went up, that is not the only thing that increases. Any business that has product/materials delivered can tell you that.
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08-04-2008, 08:33 PM
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Are the kids still ghost ridin' their whips? Could'a coasted another house or two fo' sho'!
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08-04-2008, 08:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getnpsi
If fuel prices went up, that is not the only thing that increases. Any business that has product/materials delivered can tell you that.
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Yeah, that's fine. I hardly buy anything anyway.
My biggest expense, even though it really isn't that big, is gasoline. Then food, property taxes, and utilities.
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08-04-2008, 11:23 PM
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I'm gonna hold my nose and vote for McCain ... 'cause the other way just isn't an option for me.
But that comment of his about tire inflation stung a bit. It'll probably work (politically) for John because it plays on people's ignorance ... and their willingness to be ignorant and lazy while whining for others to do more. Our country has far too many of those folks.
But, at it's heart, there is a very valid point: a couple tips for saving energy is not going to do it all by itself. We need more fossil energy as we develop alternatives.
I'm with T. Boone (so far): We need to do everything: drill for oil, explore alternative energy and conserve, conserve, conserve ... 
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08-04-2008, 11:33 PM
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i'm converting my van to run on baby seal oil,
the next diy biofuel
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08-04-2008, 11:56 PM
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God I hate politics.... why is it every damn election we are trying to chose the lesser of two evils? The ignorant opinions of people, the mud slinging, the lack of any sort of plan just a bunch of "If you vote for me it won't be as bad as voting for him cause he eats babies" kind of BS.
Honestly, it makes me incredibly sad to read some of the comments people made on the blogs that were linked in this article...
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08-05-2008, 12:14 AM
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McCain's campaign is being run by the oiligarchy.
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08-05-2008, 12:16 PM
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Yeah, that's fine. I hardly buy anything anyway.
My biggest expense, even though it really isn't that big, is gasoline. Then food, property taxes, and utilities.
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even food takes transporting. with the rising costs of oil, EVERYTHING is affected.
and even if you can take a $4 - $10 increase in gas price, not everyone can.... think about the old people who get fixed welfare checks... the rising gas prices means less money on other things, food, etc... and like i said those prices would go up too..
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08-05-2008, 07:17 PM
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"why is it every damn election we are trying to chose the lesser of two evils? The ignorant opinions of people, the mud slinging, the lack of any sort of plan ..."
Because most people are ignorant and stupid. Really, it's THAT simple. If more people people cared about issues and thought things through, the nonsense in elections wouldn't work when it came time to vote.
As it is, meaningless slogans like "Our time is now" carry the day.
Think of how most people are fixated by the price of fuel these days. OK, so how many are ecomodders? A very, very, small fraction.
But why is that? Answer: Because most people are ignorant and stupid. 
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08-05-2008, 10:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getnpsi
Oil companies can't sell air, rebublicans cant tax air, so they won't admit that extra inflation helps.
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"Extra inflation"? Is that tire pressure? Or, economic pressure? LOL  ( I couldn't pass this up!)
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08-06-2008, 12:12 PM
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Bror, just why is it "just not an option for you". Were you raised to be somewhat racist against blacks like I was so you can't bring yourself to vote for him? If so, you should know that Obama is 50% white and was 100% raised by his white mom and white grandparents so he does not fit the ignorant stereotypes you are thinking of.
But you do know McCain is pandering to these ignorant people and you know drilling won't do anything to stop oil from doubling or tripling during his tenure, and you know Obama is serious about getting off of foreign oil completely within 10 years (That means the US buys only US made oil and doesn't give a dime to our enemies). T Boone even said that Obama's plan was a good start but needed more natural gas and drilling in the picture. We also know that McCain has just recently received 2 million dollars directly from OIL COMPANIES so you can guarantee which president will have the much higher oil prices during his tenure and beyond. Just follow the money.
And I didn't even get into the fact that our dollar has plummeted over 40% under Bush's war costs and economic policies and that McCain will continue all of those exactly the same because it will be the same Karl Rove guys running the show.
In stark contrast, Obama will quit killing our dollar and stop wasting 700Billion yearly on imported oil, and another 400 Billion yearly on Iraq but McCain will keep that massive hemorrhaging going and our country just cannot afford it. Not to mention McCain's economic guru is Phil Gramm who also worked with Bush to set up Bush's failed banking policy in 2002 which is what, directly caused our entire mortgage credit collapse!! It just get's worse and worse.
Everyone, there is a correlation to McCain almost failing out of college and graduating even worse than Bush at near last in a class of almost 1000 students and why his solutions do nothing to help us and why he didn't even know there were Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq years into the war. And there is a reason why Obama, who grew up working/middle class like most of us, excelled in school and earned scholarships to Harvard and eventually became the president of it's Prestigious Law Review, has shown that his ideas are real solutions that work and will end us giving 700 BILLION A YEAR TO TERRORIST SPONSORING COUNTRIES!
They both are "options", McCain is just the dumb and radical option, especially when he could possibly start WWIII during his tenure as the oldest, dumbest, newly elected president ever. Last thing, just weeks after 9/11, McCain was first to go on TV blaming Saddam for sending out the Anthrax in the mail so he could drum up American anger towards Saddam and guarantee an invasion of Iraq using a barrage of fake and false propaganda along with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield and Condi. Now it turns out McCain was completely wrong again and the anthrax actually came from a US government facility. You can't get more wrong than that!
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08-06-2008, 12:21 PM
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soooo,
how about that tire inflation thing. i've heard it helps
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08-06-2008, 12:51 PM
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Yes, proper tire inflation can reduce oil consumption in the US immediately up to 3 or even 4% right now while Drilling our coastlines in the states that allow it will increase oil output 1-2% 15 years from now.
I would expect the idiot who said he is "just getting started on the internet" and "I don't know much about the economy" to also mock the free and easy 3-4% savings now idea in favor of the 1-2% savings sometime after he is dead and gone.
And the American people still suck this stuff up and vote against their own interests........unbelievable. Obama lowers taxes on everyone more than McCain for 95% of us. So go ahead and be selfish, get that extra $1,000 big oil rebate Barack will give you or say "nahhh, I think Exxon needs to earn more than 120 billion in pure profit in 12 months, they need it more than me."
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