Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Fossil Fuel Free > Open ReVolt: open source DC motor controller
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-29-2012, 07:31 AM   #5521 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Jyvaskyla, Finland
Posts: 143

Golfwagen - '89 Volkswagen Golf mk2
90 day: 107.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 47
Thanked 35 Times in 28 Posts
New power PCB design has tinned contacts for B+, B- and M- copper bus bars. Do I need to heat and tin my copper bars before attaching them to the PCB or would I be fine without soldering? I was going to use some conductive glue and simply clamp them together like I did on earlier design.

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 02-29-2012, 03:33 PM   #5522 (permalink)
PaulH
 
MPaulHolmes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maricopa, AZ (sort of. Actually outside of town)
Posts: 3,832

Michael's Electric Beetle - '71 Volkswagen Superbeetle 500000
Thanks: 1,368
Thanked 1,202 Times in 765 Posts
You don't need to solder them to the power board. Just use the conductive epoxy again. At least that's what I've done and it seems to work fine.
__________________
kits and boards
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MPaulHolmes For This Useful Post:
mora (02-29-2012)
Old 02-29-2012, 04:21 PM   #5523 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Jyvaskyla, Finland
Posts: 143

Golfwagen - '89 Volkswagen Golf mk2
90 day: 107.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 47
Thanked 35 Times in 28 Posts
Thanks for the info. It took few weeks to get proper flat copper sourced so I can start my controller rebuild now. Hope to finish it soon.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 04:32 PM   #5524 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: alaska
Posts: 141
Thanks: 10
Thanked 37 Times in 19 Posts
A couple weeks? Onlinemetals.com has really good stock on copper, and they are reasonable prices. Plus they also offer cutting (for like a dollar per piece) and they have pre cut pieces (random length between 10 and 12 inches) that seem to always be around 11.5 inches. And they have 110 alloy, which is about the best alloy u can get aside from 111
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 04:50 PM   #5525 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Jyvaskyla, Finland
Posts: 143

Golfwagen - '89 Volkswagen Golf mk2
90 day: 107.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 47
Thanked 35 Times in 28 Posts
Yea, I took a look at their store before but didn't find any info about international shipping fees. Maybe I should have asked them. I got some copper bar from local scrapyard for my previous controller. It was cheap, hehe. I asked some companies if they had flat copper and best offer I got was 4m long bar. Oh, and most of companies I asked didn't sell to individuals. After all the searching I asked the same machinist who made my motor shaft coupler. He had some thick pieces of copper and cut them to bars per my needs. Aluminium is no problem to find.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 06:20 PM   #5526 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: alaska
Posts: 141
Thanks: 10
Thanked 37 Times in 19 Posts
oh! i had forgotten about international shipping. online metals only ships ups, but i believe ups has international shipping options. if you can find it locally though, that's perfect
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 02:16 PM   #5527 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Jyvaskyla, Finland
Posts: 143

Golfwagen - '89 Volkswagen Golf mk2
90 day: 107.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 47
Thanked 35 Times in 28 Posts
Success. Controller works fine after repair. I replaced all the mosfets, whole power board and two diodes. Now voltage goes to 144V during precharge and even voltage sag seems to have lowered.

Question: for how long should caps remain charged? My previous controller lost cap charge in few seconds after opening the main contactor. Rebuilt controller holds charge for minutes and voltage decreases very slowly. Could that quick voltage drop have hinted me of developing short?

Last edited by mora; 03-06-2012 at 02:34 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 04:59 PM   #5528 (permalink)
AC-DC enthusiast
 
mrbigh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 282

Dual-PWR PHEV - '04 Toyota Prius

Kopper - '79 Bradley Bradley GT-II
Thanks: 123
Thanked 54 Times in 37 Posts
I think you answered your own question.
You should install a discharge resistor between pre-charge cap. (+) and (-) 12Kohms x 10 Watts to avoid those sudden electrical discharges.
__________________
. .. .. . .......
Prius Absolutum Dominium . ..........KOPPER
PHEV conversion since Dec 2006.. . .... .Future EV
. . . . . . . .CALCars # 27. . . . . . . . . . ..on the works now !!
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . ........
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2012, 12:03 AM   #5529 (permalink)
PaulH
 
MPaulHolmes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maricopa, AZ (sort of. Actually outside of town)
Posts: 3,832

Michael's Electric Beetle - '71 Volkswagen Superbeetle 500000
Thanks: 1,368
Thanked 1,202 Times in 765 Posts
I used my math 102 class today to do a series of voltage, current and rpm measurements on a DC motor. the results:

if voltage is fixed, the amp-rpm curve is linear. for different voltages, the amp-rpm curves are parallel. So, you just need 2 of 3 volts, amps, and rpm to know the other one.
__________________
kits and boards
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2012, 01:37 PM   #5530 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
tazziboy7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: nashville, TN
Posts: 2

Drunken Sam - '88 Suzuki Samurai JX

White - '06 Hyosung 650GT
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Subscribe

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tazziboy7 For This Useful Post:
MPaulHolmes (03-10-2012)
Reply  Post New Thread




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Paul and Sabrina's Cheap 3 Phase Inverter (AC Controller) with Field Oriented Control MPaulHolmes Fossil Fuel Free 3480 05-04-2022 05:43 PM
Paul & Sabrina's Cheap EV Conversion MPaulHolmes Fossil Fuel Free 542 11-12-2016 09:09 PM
Three Dirt Cheap DIY Electric Cars - Part 5 SVOboy EcoModder Blog Discussion 0 12-12-2008 04:10 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com