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Old 11-02-2010, 10:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2011 Cruze -- anybody ELSE got one?

...I'm curious, does anybody yet have a 2011 Cruze with the 1.4L turbo?

...the dealer says the 'Eco' won't be available until mid-December or early January, pending EPA testing results.


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Old 11-03-2010, 01:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Nope, but I saw one in a showroom. If it wasn't a showroom full of salespeople, I would have spent time kicking the tires.

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Old 11-03-2010, 12:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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...did you notice how the 'spare' doughnut tire is NOT included, but is instead a $100 OPTION?

...instead of a spare tire, GM has lamely replaced it with "...tire sealant and inflator kit..." WTF?

...and, a real spare isn't even available on the ECO model--dumb & dumber!!
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 11-03-2010, 01:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My local dealer has three in stock. Optioned to the gills, and listed at $18,000, $23,000 and $24,000. For that money, I think I'd look elsewhere.
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Old 11-03-2010, 03:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Nobody ever uses the spare tire anymore. Waste of weight and space.


Besides, those doughnut spares are dangerous.
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That's why I think all cars should come with a full size spare. I appreciate knowing that the Jeep has one (and it does get used, 5 tire rotation, as it's on a matching rim). Even my sister's old base model, no options 94 Camry has a full size spare. My dad's mid-level 05 Camry, however, has a doughnut.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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...instead of a spare tire, GM has lamely replaced it with "...tire sealant and inflator kit..." WTF?
Full size spare tires have gone out of fashion long ago on this side of the Atlantic.
Now the temporary spares that replaced the full-size tires are following.

It's a major weight loss for the fleet of cars as a whole, and significant savings in resources when seen over the entire production run.
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I would never go anywhere without at least a doughnut spare, but preferably with a full size spare because of the driving limitations of the doughnut spare. I've had four flats over the years that wouldn't have been fixed with a can of sealant and an inflator. Two were when I hit bumps or potholes that dented the rim and knocked the tire bead off the rim. The other two were from sidewall rips or blow outs. The sealant plus inflator kit will only fix puncture leaks on the tread resulting from picking up nails and screws. I've had enough flats over the years that I carry full sized spares on both of my vehicles.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I carry full sized spares on both of my vehicles.
Really? The Aerocivic has a full-size spare? Thought for sure you would have ditched that for weight savings.

I have a can of fix-a-flat in both my truck and the Metro.
I throw a full size spare into the bed of my truck if I am going on a long trip. Otherwise, I save the weight. I also don't like a tire hung below the truck, where it just rusts on anyways.

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