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Old 01-29-2018, 04:04 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Thanks! Its a nice little car as long as you can live with pretty slow acceleration.



Slow by today's standards, maybe.

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Old 01-30-2018, 07:17 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Slow by today's standards, maybe.
All claims to slow must be compared to walking, or the bus.
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Here is both a written and a video review of the Mirage as a second hand car by a journalist for the RAC that appears to get what the car is about.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/car-revi...mirage/211293/

I have just bought a 2014 1.2 - steel wheeled version for the better fuel economy.

Should have it on the road in about 2 weeks when I receive all the paper work.
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Congrats on the Mirage. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:08 AM   #85 (permalink)
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cr45 - did you go for the CVT or the manual?

Despite the ratings, the manual actually returns better real world economy in the hands of an attentive driver than the CVT. No extreme hypermiling is required, either -- just upshift to the tallest usable gear whenever possible and you'll outperform the CVT.

Additional eco-driving/hypermiling tactics (like strategic use of neutral coasting; engine braking to achieve fuel-cut where appropriate; pulse & glide) yield additional results beyond that.
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cr45 - did you go for the CVT or the manual?

Despite the ratings, the manual actually returns better real world economy in the hands of an attentive driver than the CVT. No extreme hypermiling is required, either -- just upshift to the tallest usable gear whenever possible and you'll outperform the CVT.

Additional eco-driving/hypermiling tactics (like strategic use of neutral coasting; engine braking to achieve fuel-cut where appropriate; pulse & glide) yield additional results beyond that.
I have got the 5 spd manual.

Already have an Ultragauge that is a few years old so that will be going in.

Our countryside is quite undulating so I expect to be doing a bit of neutral coasting down the hills. The 0.27 CD should help nicely with that.

The model is known as the Mirage 2 with the version with alloy wheels known as the mirage 3. The 1.0 lit version is usually known as the Mirage 1 and is very basic - not even having a rev counter.

However, I have seen - and indeed nearly bought one - 2013 1.0 lit models that have the full top spec including alloy wheels.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:59 AM   #87 (permalink)
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I'd love to try the 1.0L. Alas, not even an option here.
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I'd love to try the 1.0L. Alas, not even an option here.
I have already test-driven a 3-cyl 1.0L Hyundai HB20, which engine is more undersquare. Would be interesting to compare it with the Mirage, but it's not available in my country (even though, if it ever become available here, the 1.0L is still more likely to be offered due to lower taxes).
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I have already test-driven a 3-cyl 1.0L Hyundai HB20
Had to look that one up...



Looks approximately Mirage-sized, yes?
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In Europe the most like for like Hyundai is the i10.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_i10

It got the 3 cyl 1.0 kappa engine- with vvt - in 2013.

However, the real world fuel economy is poor compared to the 1.0 Mirage.

Mitsubishi Mirage - 4.95 l/100km

Hyundai I10 - 5.88 l/100km

Hence the Hyundai i10 is burning 19% more fuel in the real world compared to the Mitsubishi Mirage 1.0.

Vehicle Mass and poor aero are the culprits.

The lightest i10 version is some 88 kG heavier than the Mirage 1.0.

https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overv...73&powerunit=2

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