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Old 09-17-2015, 10:34 AM   #101 (permalink)
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There's some speculation as to whether the e-4WD on the new Prius is actually a thing; that Autoexpress article is the only news source to mention it
Yeah, I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else either.

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Which averages out to less than 10 miles per trip; within the PiP range.
Good point. I wonder if the trip timing also averages out to permit the ~3 hour 110v recharge between each.

Don't get me wrong: a PIP would work perfectly for practically everybody who lives & works in my (small) city. But Toyota's still going to lose massively against the Volt in this contest.

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Old 09-17-2015, 12:37 PM   #102 (permalink)
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They do have an off-the-shelf part for this: the 50kW electric rear differential unit they have used on the Highlander Hybrid and a Lexus hybrid model.

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There's some speculation as to whether the e-4WD on the new Prius is actually a thing; that Autoexpress article is the only news source to mention it, and they pulled their info from the Toyota press kit that covers the Prius, new RAV4 hybrid (which introduces "E-Four" electric AWD), and C-HR. There's no mention of it under the Prius section, along with a paucity of other technical information.
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What really doesn't make sense is EVs with 200+ miles of EV range. It's not practical to expect to go cross-country in an EV. Either trade vehicles with a friend for the trip, or have 1 of the cars in a multi-car family have an ICE.

People have the unrealistic requirement of EVs having all of the benefits of conventional cars with no additional drawbacks, when in reality it's a different tool for a different job.
I am very curious what the future of companies pushing EVs as a package solution (*cough*Tesla*cough*) will be, because I agree with you. And, I think that as long as fossil fuels are cheap and widely available--which they will be as long as our food and goods distribution system relies on long-haul trucking, and as long as reserves hold out--people will continue to use them to power personal vehicles.
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I wonder if the trip timing also averages out to permit the ~3 hour 110v recharge between each.
As an aside for other forum readers out there; I purchased a used Leaf EVSE for less than $200 and modified it to handle both 120v and 240v. The mod costs $20 and is fairly easy to accomplish.

I get 85% of a charge in 1hr in the plug-in Prius connected to the 240v outlet in my garage. This helps maximize EV use when making multiple trips throughout the day.

I've been on a few long road trips of greater than 2,000 miles since buying in February and still have managed about 25% of the miles on EV. Even if I had 50 miles of EV range, I don't think that proportion would change much. Perhaps 50 miles of range would bump me up to 30% EV. Not worth the extra weight/expense.

The gen1 PiP is dead; long live the gen2 PiP.
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Old 09-24-2015, 08:06 AM   #105 (permalink)
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The 2016 prius Cd is 0.24 and have an automatic grill shutter.

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Merci, planetaire!

The leaked manual also confirms e-AWD ability.
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From the image gallery in that link:



I'm not fluent in reading Japanese, to put it mildly...
What's up with the dolphin? Wouldn't it mess up the interior?
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I would have drawn a shark, not you ? because of the antenna.
I don't know the dolphin cd. probably variable
With a nice "boat tail", no ?
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I, too, do NOT read Japanese, but I didn't notice anything pictorially hinting at a front radiator shutter.
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Yes it is not in the link above.
You have to look in priuschat in an album.

For exemple this picture:
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(I too don't read Japanese, but I read numbers )

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