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Old 12-26-2012, 03:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First gen Insight engine in a Civic?

Does anyone know if the First Gen Insight ICE can be mounted readily in a sixth gen Civic, can the ICE's manual transmission bolt onto a D-series Civic engine? The ICE only produces like 67hp on its own. Can it even be installed and run without the IMA? I'm most interested in the transmission, having seen a citation for a fifth gear .710 and an final drive of 3.21 ... anyone know. My bet is the answers are mostly no, but that's just guessing.

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Old 12-26-2012, 03:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Don't. If you want a small engine try deactivating two cylinders in your civic first. If you want a 3.2 final try a vx or hx civic. or HF CRX 2.95:1.
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Don't. If you want a small engine try deactivating two cylinders in your civic first. If you want a 3.2 final try a vx or hx civic. or HF CRX 2.95:1.
Do you mean "don't" as in there is no compatibility or "don't" in the sense of telling me not to do it? I'm not seriously proposing doing it, but I am curious about whether any part of a swap is possible without major customizing of mounts and such. Does anyone else know the answers as to compatibility?
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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it wont just slip in , I am sure custom mounts and drive shafts are needed as well as custom wiring, ECU setup and exhaust.
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How about an old 1.3l but it will probably be carbed
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It spins the wrong direction, the civic engine is on the drivers side of the car the insight engine is on the passenger side of the car.

I hear that the insight drive train will bolt right in to a Honda Fit tho, but I've never seen it done.
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Even if you can get it swapped, there's no guarantee it'll get better mileage. A heavier and less aerodynamic car could end up working it so hard that you won't see any gains.
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:46 AM   #8 (permalink)
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You'll probably have trouble keeping posted speeds with the 3cyl and will have to down shifting one or two gears on every overpass.

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