Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Fossil Fuel Free
Register Now
 Register Now

Now available from EcoModder: ScanGauge II fuel economy gauge.  Click for details.  

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-02-2009, 01:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Matt Herring's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: North Andover, MA
Posts: 857

Bone's 2010 Prius - '010 Prius Black
90 day: 56.78 mpg (US)
Thanks: 5
Thanked 20 Times in 16 Posts
Algae Fuel Coast To Coast Run

Interesting west coast to east coast run for this company's "algae" fueled vehicle. Not all algae fueled though...plug in electric, hybrid, gas, algae combo...looks like they are using a Prius as the dummy car.

Claiming 150 mpg...not sure how they calculate that number using all the forms of fuel they have in the car.

150 MPG “Algaeus” Plug-In Prius To Cruise Coast-to-Coast On Algae Fuel : Gas 2.0

Has anyone here heard of or been following this company? If you're in one of the 10 cities it's visiting it might be an interesting thing to check out.


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2009, 01:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,236

Herbie - '86 Golf Diesel
90 day: 51.89 mpg (US)
Thanks: 868
Thanked 294 Times in 248 Posts
I don't know about the company, but it's been made clear by other companies that algae doesn't currently have the capacity to create enough fuel per area to even offset gas usage in this country... it would have to be grown in towers which maximized surface area, and genetically engineered to create something like 80% of it's own body weight in oil (as food storage).

Those figures were used for creating bio-diesel from Algae, though. Someone is working on the surface maximized tower thing, as well... can't think of the name, but it was on "Brink".
__________________
"żʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"


I'd like to think that people might open their eyes at some point... instead, I find it more and more likely that I'll just close mine.

-- Author kept secret.

Je ne veux pas d'une meilleure vie. Je veux ętre heureux avec celle que j'ai maintenant.
(I do not want a better life. I want to be happy with the one I have now.)


  Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2009, 09:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
dcb
needs more cowbell
 
dcb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ˙
Posts: 5,019

pimp mobile - '81 gs 250 t
90 day: 96.29 mpg (US)

schnitzel - '01 Golf TDI
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)
Thanks: 153
Thanked 256 Times in 202 Posts
not sure what companies you are referring to. Are you expecting a single source solution to energy problems?
__________________
WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!

Last edited by dcb; 09-02-2009 at 10:07 AM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2009, 04:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,236

Herbie - '86 Golf Diesel
90 day: 51.89 mpg (US)
Thanks: 868
Thanked 294 Times in 248 Posts
No, I'm not expecting a single source solution, but the solution won't come from growing crops for fuel. There isn't enough surface area for the farms necessary to do so without starving the country as well, which is the reason they've begun researching algae in the first place. Several types of algae produce (per weight) much more oil than other vegetables do, when forced to store food supply for themselves.

The biggest part of research is finding a way to grow the algae on more than flat-ground surface area, as again, there just isn't enough area to "go around"; Hence the reason for "algae towers". Once again - watch that episode of "Brink" on Discovery. You'll get what I'm saying.
__________________
"żʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"


I'd like to think that people might open their eyes at some point... instead, I find it more and more likely that I'll just close mine.

-- Author kept secret.

Je ne veux pas d'une meilleure vie. Je veux ętre heureux avec celle que j'ai maintenant.
(I do not want a better life. I want to be happy with the one I have now.)


  Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2009, 04:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
dcb
needs more cowbell
 
dcb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ˙
Posts: 5,019

pimp mobile - '81 gs 250 t
90 day: 96.29 mpg (US)

schnitzel - '01 Golf TDI
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)
Thanks: 153
Thanked 256 Times in 202 Posts
I don't pay for TV. Digital broadcast is plenty for my purposes.
__________________
WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2009, 04:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,236

Herbie - '86 Golf Diesel
90 day: 51.89 mpg (US)
Thanks: 868
Thanked 294 Times in 248 Posts
I think you can get the episode on hulu or discovery.com too.
__________________
"żʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"


I'd like to think that people might open their eyes at some point... instead, I find it more and more likely that I'll just close mine.

-- Author kept secret.

Je ne veux pas d'une meilleure vie. Je veux ętre heureux avec celle que j'ai maintenant.
(I do not want a better life. I want to be happy with the one I have now.)


  Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2009, 05:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
dcb
needs more cowbell
 
dcb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ˙
Posts: 5,019

pimp mobile - '81 gs 250 t
90 day: 96.29 mpg (US)

schnitzel - '01 Golf TDI
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)
Thanks: 153
Thanked 256 Times in 202 Posts
yah, not hunting for something some company, with who knows what agenda, might have said in the middle of some video.

Thing is, algae needs water and not land. so not sure the comment even makes sense.
__________________
WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2009, 05:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
home of the odd vehicles
 
rmay635703's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 1,060

Silver - '010 Cobalt XFE
Thanks: 53
Thanked 64 Times in 56 Posts
Several oil companies holding company shells own rights to methods of rapid growing algae from coal fired exhaust flumes.

I think there is a fair amount of potential on that regard since there is an AWEFULL lot of dead space around power plants and the polution reductions are real.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christ View Post
I don't know about the company, but it's been made clear by other companies that algae doesn't currently have the capacity to create enough fuel per area to even offset gas usage in this country... it would have to be grown in towers which maximized surface area, and genetically engineered to create something like 80% of it's own body weight in oil (as food storage).

Those figures were used for creating bio-diesel from Algae, though. Someone is working on the surface maximized tower thing, as well... can't think of the name, but it was on "Brink".
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2009, 06:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
Moderate your Moderation.
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,236

Herbie - '86 Golf Diesel
90 day: 51.89 mpg (US)
Thanks: 868
Thanked 294 Times in 248 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcb View Post
yah, not hunting for something some company, with who knows what agenda, might have said in the middle of some video.

Thing is, algae needs water and not land. so not sure the comment even makes sense.
I'm well aware that algae needs water... the point was that there isn't enough surface area of the water (because it needs light, too, right?!) to grow enough algae to completely offset oil production for diesel or gasoline.

Yes, that includes using all available bodies of water in the US, and US-accessible bodies. Trouble is, without a controlled growth method, there are other ecological side-effects to look after as well...

Sure, we could cover the entire ocean in algal growth, but then what happens to the creatures beneath the surface that need light?

The towers that are being researched are just water tubes that flow through a filter which filters algae that have grown to a certain size, and only when flow through the filter is opened. In this way, algae can be grown/sustained in water filled tubes that extend hundreds of feet into the air, rather than spreading that same amount of algae over hundreds of square feet of water.

Jeez, way to over-analyze a comment.


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
__________________
"żʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"


I'd like to think that people might open their eyes at some point... instead, I find it more and more likely that I'll just close mine.

-- Author kept secret.

Je ne veux pas d'une meilleure vie. Je veux ętre heureux avec celle que j'ai maintenant.
(I do not want a better life. I want to be happy with the one I have now.)


  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hydrogen Generator Experiment willy57 DIY / How-to 473 03-04-2011 03:29 PM
ElmScan + Customized Scantool Software = data logging! cfg83 Instrumentation 19 08-08-2010 10:24 PM
mileage computer for a carbureted engine diesel_john Instrumentation 162 07-18-2010 06:31 PM
smart cdi (diesel) owner from BC, Canada smartzuuk Introductions 23 04-10-2010 01:22 PM
Basic EcoDriving Techniques and Instrumentation SVOboy Instrumentation 2 11-17-2007 12:38 PM




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com