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Ryland · 04-05-2009, 09:43 PM

My EV has enough speed and range that I have my civic parked at my parents house, if it turns out that I do need it (for hauling lumper or towing a trailer) I can go get it, but just like how I don't need a truck or a van or a semi truck, there are alot of vehicles that I don't need to use every day or even once a week.

MPaulHolmes · 04-06-2009, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Dave

...and the range of your EV is what?

The range of the EV-1 with NiMH batteries at 45 mph was about 220 miles. That's enough for most in-town driving in a day. No range anxiety necessary.

roflwaffle · 04-06-2009, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MPaulHolmes

The range of the EV-1 with NiMH batteries at 45 mph was about 220 miles. That's enough for most in-town driving in a day. No range anxiety necessary.

Um, clearly I need 1000 miles per fill for the .000001% of the time I need to drive 1000 miles in a day. Also, it's anatomically impossible for me to rent a car.

roflwaffle · 04-06-2009, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Keanu Reeves

But I couldn't risk turning off the lights or going too slow on the freeway.

MPaulHolmes · 04-06-2009, 02:34 PM

That was funny. Also, in Speed 2, the boat had to go real fast, so that's another reason electric cars aren't quite ready.

rmay635703 · 04-06-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dave

More than forty miles.

A heater is mandatory.

Mine goes 50miles on a charge so long as I have one long stop in the middle aka 1hr or so for it to sit. (not charge mind you) This is traveling at 35mph or less.
My batteries have over 14k miles on them, I would guess that the original owner saying the car could do 100miles on new batteries at 35mph or less was probably accurate.

And yes I have a heater, though i would prefer to have the old little propane tank defroster that the previous owner kept.

It is not impossible to go more than 40 miles electric it just means limited speed on lead acid.

With CNT (carbon nanotube), lithium ion or other battery techs it is easily possible to exceed 40 miles as there is no peukert to mess with.

Also look at the Rav4 EV, it met your criteria.

roflwaffle · 04-06-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MPaulHolmes

That was funny. Also, in Speed 2, the boat had to go real fast, so that's another reason electric cars aren't quite ready.

Seriously! Until we have 100% electric container ships, I won't be able to buy my 1000hp EV Fjord Exploder that can go 3,000 miles between charges. Gosh, why can't those silly liberals understand this?

P.S. I should probably stop being a jackass, but I enjoy it so much.

Edit- When are major manufacturers going to build a heat-pump/AC instead of using AC/Resistive heating in EVs? If they use "waste" heat from the battery pack to keep the fins from icing up in cold temperatures they should be able to manage a COP of ~3 or so. The roadster for instance uses a 1500W heater that would draw about 50Wh/mile at 30mph average speed. In something like the i-MiEV, that would cut range about 20 miles off of the range. Using a heat pump would only cut about 6-7 miles off of the range, so that's definitely a big advantage.

bennelson · 04-06-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dave

A heater is mandatory.

I was SO wrestling with how to do heat this winter in the Electro Metro.

In the end, I just set a small household electric radiator in the back seat. I set it on a timer, and the car was warm when I hopped it.

It took the power from a household plug (NOT the batteries) and was pretty comfy.

If I was driving for a little longer distance, I would just crack the window so it wouldn't fog up.

cfg83 · 04-06-2009, 08:53 PM

bennelson -

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Originally Posted by bennelson

I was SO wrestling with how to do heat this winter in the Electro Metro.

In the end, I just set a small household electric radiator in the back seat. I set it on a timer, and the car was warm when I hopped it.

It took the power from a household plug (NOT the batteries) and was pretty comfy.

If I was driving for a little longer distance, I would just crack the window so it wouldn't fog up.

Would this have worked for you? :

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NeilBlanchard · 04-06-2009, 10:06 PM

Hi,

I thought that the EV1 went 60-70 miles with the original lead acid batteries? It had heat.

The Aptera 2e goes at least 100 miles with the A/C (or heat) on. It may well go a lot farther than that, if they put a larger battery in it (there are hints it will be a 20kWh or even 22kWh!).