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Old 10-13-2008, 11:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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And they say technology has advanced. Looks super slippery.
At roughly the same time (maybe 85 or 86), I remember that the Epcot (GM?) exhibit included a 200mpg "car" called the "lean machine". Actually, it was more like a fully faired (and enclosed) motorcycle (thus the "leaning" nomenclature) and resembled the 100l more than anything else.

I don't think they said a word about safety (this is Disney, remember).


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Old 10-14-2008, 12:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Link to video from whence the screen shot came at the top of this thread:

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...which contains a morsel of info (and a shot under the hood) to help identify that engine: it's a 3 cylinder.
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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A car from 84 doesnt have to meet modern safety standards.
ANY one-off, non-production, home-built vehicle does not have to be crash tested.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Update from the Avion website: they took the car out on Saturday to see if they could beat their previous best of 103 mpg... and surprise, are claiming 113 mpg / 2.1 L/100 km on a trip on I-5 from the Canadian border through WA to the Oregon border.

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This time, he started at the Canadian border (Bellingham Wa.) at 7:25 morning of October 11 and ending at the Oregon border at Fort Vancouver at 1:00. Henderson traveled 263.1 miles and used 2.326 gallons of diesel averaging 113.1 miles per gallon, even getting stuck twice in Seattle traffic. (source)
That's an average speed of 48 mph / 77 km/h which is pretty impressive in my books.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:27 PM   #15 (permalink)
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He'd do well to stick in the 899 (?) cc diesel from the previous gen smart fortwo if he's going for ultimate mileage. Of course that does nothing for the emissions/safety regs.
In one of their videos, he mentions that the transmission currently in the Avion is the semi-automatic from the fourtwo and that the engine is a 3 cylinder Mercedes diesel (which sounds a lot like the diesel from the fourtwo).
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Ah, good catch. Mystery solved then.

It would undoubtedly have better performance than the fortwo (0-60 in 19 seconds) because (a) it's slightly lighter, and (b) obviously better aero.
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Hello,

It seems like they might do a bit of further design development -- the panel to reveal the headlights seems outdated, for example. Some small projector-type head lights with flush covers would do the trick. And, it is a very long car, for the fairly cramped two seat interior. And the tires rub the fenders (check the video with the radio guy.)

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Considering it's an aerodynamic 2 seater based on smart fortwo running gear, it's more or less the same as this car:



Oh, and coincidentally, the builders of this one also claim 113 mpg (US). MetroMPG miscellany - MetroMPG.com
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