Books about aerodynamics (Hucho, Barnard)

[groar]

Originally Posted by Daox

I think you could probably read through a lot of it. There is some that is complex. For instance there is a chapter just on the math of it all (I just breezed through that part). There is so much you can learn just by flipping through it looking at pictures...

Originally Posted by tasdrouille

So true.

Thanks

Ordered mine for 99.95$ on amazon.com (4 left). While writing this message, the book is already being in preparation
Should be here between 7 and 20th of November. As said in France : slowly, but safely
may be it will eco-drive in an eco-modded boat
Through amazon.fr I could order some new and used books, but none was cheaper (from 160 to 410$ ) or could be shipped faster.

I don't know how I will be able to refrain myself to read my auto-present before Xmas

Denis.

[Daox]

If you can get it from the library, why not just check it back out again?

BTW, you have no idea how many times I hear the same thing from people who saw me carrying the book around lol.

[Tango Charlie]

whoops, sorry Daox. I was trying to edit my post and deleted it instead.
What I was saying, was
I obtained a copy of Hucho's book through an interlibrary loan. When I picked it up at the local branch, the librarian facetiously said, "Looks like real exciting reading." I just smiled politely and thought to myself, 'You have no idea, lady!'
Two weeks wasn't enough time (for me) with the book.
What surprised me was that many of the sketches I had been making while brainstorming were essentially Jaray forms. Go figure.

[i_am_socket]

I found a copy of Hucho's book on Google Books. Granted, it's in German, but the pictures are there.

[orange4boy]

I gotta get my schwankungsgeschwindigkeiten down. Srsly.

ROFL, literally.

[Cd]

What has chased me away from buying this book is the math.
You guys say that there is a lot to be learned from the pictures too, but what percentage would you say is math versus the simple stuff ?
( Which book version is more suited to my needs ? )

Thanks

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Cd

What has chased me away from buying this book is the math.
You guys say that there is a lot to be learned from the pictures too, but what percentage would you say is math versus the simple stuff ?
( Which book version is more suited to my needs ? )

Thanks

Don't be intimidated by the math.Much of the work is in table or graphical form.You can "look" at many relations affected by size,shape,velocity,etc.,there's nothing to calculate.---- If you're comfortable working with fractions and percentages,you can "extend" lines and curves to get to data firmly established by the trend lines of the original curves/lines.------------------ I've taken the book to the copy center here where I do the computer internet and photo-enlarged many of the images,graphs,and tables up to 800% just to make them easier to work with.------------ I developed the aerodynamic template from images Hucho had in different parts of the book.There was no calculation to it.Just curvature based on a convenient size reference.Don't be spooked,you'll love it,and as Frank mentioned,each time you look through it,you'll get something new out of it.Consider it part of your early retirement investment portfolio for the money it's going to save you.On my recent trip to New Mexico I saved 50% on fuel because of what I chose in the 1/2-ton pickup market,and what I did to it.All those mods can be deduced from the images in the book with ,a decent bubble level,tape measure,a 99-cent protractor,and the percent function of a $5 pocket calculator.

[NeilBlanchard]

Can someone with a 2nd or 3rd edition of "Aerodynamics of Road Vehicles" check the section on Wheels and Wheel Housings, please? I had an earlier copy from MIT, and it included a lot more detail than the 4th edition; which I now own.

The earlier edition had much more detail on lots of things, including isometric drawings of air flow around a rotating tire inside of a wheel well; maybe including a covered wheel well? If you have this, I would love to see a scan or photo of that section. TIA

[Vekke]

New book for evening reading and its free .

Preface

Enjoy. Thanks from this tip goes to Brazil.

[jimepting]

Originally Posted by tasdrouille

Would I be missing a lot over the 4th edition if I only read Hucho's 2nd edition? I'm asking cause I can borrow the 2nd edition for free at the local engineering school.

Hard to say since I haven't seen the 2nd edition, but since the 4th edition is almost 350 pages longer, I would assume that Doax's words ring true.

I own the 4th and think is is a wonderful book. The math in one of the earlier chapters is very dense and somethat difficult even for an engineering type, but it is the sort of thing you can read and reread. It doesn't detract from the rest of the book. Hucho has lots of pictures, illustrations and graphs, so most of his major points can be deciphered even when you have difficulty with the math.

But FREE is good. Check out the 2nd edition and you may find it satisfies you. If you were patient enough to type in the chapter headings, then I'd be able to tell you what you were missing. There is a chapter of CFD in the 4th which I suspect is missing from the 2nd.