Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > General Efficiency Discussion
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-08-2018, 01:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
PSmodder lurker
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chino
Posts: 1,507
Thanks: 23
Thanked 769 Times in 451 Posts
CES introduces a new 50 inch TV...with an EV crossover

Chinese start-up, Byton debut an EV concept with multi-level autonomous system, giving the driver/passenger total control of the level of AI assistance. The exterior design is somewhat contemporary crossover template but inside the vehicle has a digital lounge; 5G, SIM cards, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, shared connectivity and a dominant 50-inch wide x 8-inch high screen. The driver/passenger cabin has technologies like facial recognition and gesture analytics to detect your movement or access other features.


  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 01-08-2018, 08:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
home of the odd vehicles
 
rmay635703's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 2,749

Silver - '10 Chevy Cobalt XFE
Thanks: 237
Thanked 459 Times in 342 Posts
Sounds like an opportunity for a lot of expensive repairs
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2018, 01:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
EcoModding Newb
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 3,469

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 31.25 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Prius Plug-in - '12 Toyota Prius Plug-in
90 day: 79.06 mpg (US)

Mazda CX-5 - '17 Mazda CX-5 Touring
90 day: 27.99 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,333
Thanked 1,039 Times in 702 Posts
I'm telling you, we're just years away from Chinese vehicles hitting the US and undercutting the competition, especially in the EV sphere. They are very capable of borrowing the best IP (intellectual property) from other companies and incorporating them into their own products.

I have a $300 4k video quadcopter that outperforms anything else under $1000.

Electronics are relatively cheap. Elon might be selling the full autonomous package for $10,000, but he won't be able to get away with those extreme profit margins once the Chinese begin offering it for $1,000.

5 years from now we'll be fools to not get some level of driver-assist in new vehicles. The resale of vehicles with no assist will be very poor, and insurance rates will be higher.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2018, 08:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 6,346
Thanks: 0
Thanked 620 Times in 551 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
I'm telling you, we're just years away from Chinese vehicles hitting the US and undercutting the competition, especially in the EV sphere. They are very capable of borrowing the best IP (intellectual property) from other companies and incorporating them into their own products.
Considering that Volvo is now owned by Geely, and its commitment to hybrids and EVs in the near future, it doesn't sound too unlikely.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2018, 09:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Missoula, MT
Posts: 1,333
Thanks: 89
Thanked 441 Times in 300 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
I'm telling you, we're just years away from Chinese vehicles hitting the US and undercutting the competition, especially in the EV sphere. They are very capable of borrowing the best IP (intellectual property) from other companies and incorporating them into their own products.

I have a $300 4k video quadcopter that outperforms anything else under $1000.

Electronics are relatively cheap. Elon might be selling the full autonomous package for $10,000, but he won't be able to get away with those extreme profit margins once the Chinese begin offering it for $1,000.

5 years from now we'll be fools to not get some level of driver-assist in new vehicles. The resale of vehicles with no assist will be very poor, and insurance rates will be higher.
What's your drone? Costco had the Mavic Pro for just under $1000. Luckily I only had $150 in my pocket LOL. I want to do some ghost town/historic mining filming/scouting. Maybe aerial wildlife filming if it doesn't spook them too much. I have a $100 toy now, but it really has a terrible camera and range.

I agree, and can't wait for some level of autonomous. I just hope they make it work with humans driving as well and not try and limit the freedom to drive yourself if you want. If at some point nobody want to drive fine.

IMO nothing has given us real, tangible freedom as the ability to control our own transportation when and where we want at every level of income. If there was some "master switch" somebody could throw and lock everybody down to within walking distances, or only allow travel to and from designated locations it would be a terrible outcome. I suppose I would always just keep an old veggie oil diesel 4x4 in the garage and be that crazy old coot.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2018, 09:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
EcoModding Newb
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 3,469

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 31.25 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Prius Plug-in - '12 Toyota Prius Plug-in
90 day: 79.06 mpg (US)

Mazda CX-5 - '17 Mazda CX-5 Touring
90 day: 27.99 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,333
Thanked 1,039 Times in 702 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hersbird View Post
What's your drone? Costco had the Mavic Pro for just under $1000.
I bought the Xiaomi Mi 4k drone when it was on sale (promo code) at gearbest.com, and then went through a cash back site and paid with a cash back credit card to get it down to about $300. Then I bought a 2nd battery when it was on sale for $40. Flight time is about 25 minutes. Video quality is better than Phantom 3, and slightly worse than Phantom 4. The Mavic probably just edges out the Mi 4k in video quality depending on who you ask and your criteria.

The main strength of the Mavic is portability. It packs down to nothing, which makes it more likely to be carried when going on excursions.

Plenty of Youtube reviews out there, so I'll stop before this becomes a wall of text.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2018, 01:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 4,943
Thanks: 209
Thanked 735 Times in 535 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
5 years from now we'll be fools to not get some level of driver-assist in new vehicles. The resale of vehicles with no assist will be very poor, and insurance rates will be higher.
Who you calling we? With any luck, five years from now I'll still be driving my 16 year old Miata, 18 year old Insight, and 30 year old Toyota pickup. Though in 5 years, they'll be 21, 23, and 35 :-)

And "resale value" is whatever they'll be paying for scrap metal.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2018, 06:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 6,346
Thanks: 0
Thanked 620 Times in 551 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hersbird View Post
I agree, and can't wait for some level of autonomous. I just hope they make it work with humans driving as well and not try and limit the freedom to drive yourself if you want.
Some level of autonomy might be interesting, but I agree with you on keeping provisions for human-driving too, even though the interface might become substantially different from what we're now used to.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2018, 07:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Elmira, NY
Posts: 1,522
Thanks: 226
Thanked 247 Times in 209 Posts
Most people will want the safety and convenience of autonomous vehicles even if they only use a ride share system in the urban areas. Out in the boonies we will still need skills for mud and snow conditions.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com