Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now


Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack (2) Thread Tools
Old 02-02-2008, 07:37 AM   #41 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 8,654

Blackfly - '98 Metro
Team Metro
90 day: 78.84 mpg (US)

ForkenSwift - '92 Metro EV
90 day: 106.27 mpg (US)
Thanks: 23
Thanked 67 Times in 48 Posts
Brett replied to my post:

----

Quote:
Originally Posted by bondo
Thanks Darin for the kind words. I appreciate all who frequent this board. I have learned alot from others by reading the posts and I am glad you feel my posts have made a contribution. Thank you for posting Phil Knox's info. I met Phil back in 2005. Gr
eat guy. As I have said before, he has forgotten more than I will ever know about aerodynamics.

Brett


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
__________________
Latest project: removable Geo Metro boat tail
Latest test: Massive cardboard air dam on a Geo Metro


www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 09:48 AM   #42 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: appleton wi, for now
Posts: 363

pontiac trans am - '00 firebird trans am

jeep 1 - '02 wrangler
90 day: 16.76 mpg (US)

jeep 2 - '07 wrangler x
90 day: 19.39 mpg (US)

Toyota - '09 Corolla lx
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ahhh, didnt realize there was an issue with the server i hope it wasn't very costly.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 05:47 PM   #43 (permalink)
Fossil-Fuel Optional
 
bennelson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oconomowoc, WI, USA
Posts: 2,595

Electric Cycle - '81 KZ440
90 day: 334.6 mpg (US)

Sunfire - '00 Sunfire
90 day: 26.44 mpg (US)

S10 - '95 S10
90 day: 26.95 mpg (US)

Electro-Metro - '96 "Electro-Metro"
90 day: 129.81 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts
I am interested in making a home-built version of Bondo's super-cool truck capper.

I was originally thinking using coroplast. My S10 is white, and that's one of the stock colors you can get it in.

One thing I like about the S10 is that you have great visibility looking out the back and checking blind-spots. Any type of a cap would greatly reduce this.

What do you think of making the entire top-angled part of the cap out of plexiglass or acrylic? Or at lease making a REALLY BIG window in it. Bondo's design is great, but those windows sure look small to me.

I know that there are various materials used for greenhouses. Maybe there is some sort of greenhouse material that would make a great aero-cap and still keep good visibility?
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2008, 11:52 PM   #44 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 8,654

Blackfly - '98 Metro
Team Metro
90 day: 78.84 mpg (US)

ForkenSwift - '92 Metro EV
90 day: 106.27 mpg (US)
Thanks: 23
Thanked 67 Times in 48 Posts
I've seen one made from lexan. I'll track down a picture.
__________________
Latest project: removable Geo Metro boat tail
Latest test: Massive cardboard air dam on a Geo Metro


www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2008, 10:46 AM   #45 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
bondo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 94
Thanks: 4
Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by bennelson View Post
I am interested in making a home-built version of Bondo's super-cool truck capper.

I was originally thinking using coroplast. My S10 is white, and that's one of the stock colors you can get it in.

One thing I like about the S10 is that you have great visibility looking out the back and checking blind-spots. Any type of a cap would greatly reduce this.

What do you think of making the entire top-angled part of the cap out of plexiglass or acrylic? Or at lease making a REALLY BIG window in it. Bondo's design is great, but those windows sure look small to me.

I know that there are various materials used for greenhouses. Maybe there is some sort of greenhouse material that would make a great aero-cap and still keep good visibility?
Bennelson,

You're right. Rearward visibility is very limited on the prototype aero cap. I have installed larger windows in the production design. Darin mentioned the see thru aero cap he had seen. I have pics of it somewhere also and will see if I can find them.

If you choose to use a clear plastic, make sure it is polycarbonate (lexan). Acrylic can shatter like glass and break up in large sharp edged pieces. The best remedy I have found for seeing while backing up is the $90.00 backup camera sold at Wal Mart. I have had mine installed since I put the prototype on my truck back in April of last year. Easy to install, works great!

Brett
Attached Images
File Type: jpg P1010461.JPG (22.8 KB, 198 views)
File Type: jpg P1010456.JPG (20.3 KB, 194 views)
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2008, 12:35 PM   #46 (permalink)
Nomadic Chicken
 
WaxyChicken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 344
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Hey, Bondo, If i get a pickup truck later on then would i be able to order a Aero-Cap from you if i provide the measurements for the bed/cab?
(just something I'm considering)
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2008, 03:12 PM   #47 (permalink)
Fossil-Fuel Optional
 
bennelson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oconomowoc, WI, USA
Posts: 2,595

Electric Cycle - '81 KZ440
90 day: 334.6 mpg (US)

Sunfire - '00 Sunfire
90 day: 26.44 mpg (US)

S10 - '95 S10
90 day: 26.95 mpg (US)

Electro-Metro - '96 "Electro-Metro"
90 day: 129.81 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts
Another way of doing a "home-brew" version of this cap might be to build a lightweight (aluminum?) frame and covering it with shrinkable plastic.

Do you think the material from those "window insulation kits" would be durable enough? You can buy those cheap at the end of every winter. Being clear, they wouldn't restrict visuals at all. Wouldn't be good for locking things up in the back of the truck the way a hard top can, but we are speaking aerodynamics here..

Otherwise, how about the shrink material used for model airplane wings? It's sturdier and comes in different colors. I am not sure about the expense or the size that material is available in.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2008, 08:53 PM   #48 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
bondo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 94
Thanks: 4
Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaxyChicken View Post
Hey, Bondo, If i get a pickup truck later on then would i be able to order a Aero-Cap from you if i provide the measurements for the bed/cab?
(just something I'm considering)

Hey Waxy,

If you choose to get a 2005 -2008 F150 6.5 foot bed, I can fix you up now. Next we are doing tooling for the 2007 - 2008 Tundra, so if you maybe getting a Tundra we can fix you up by July of this year. Next if you choose to get a Chevy or GMC 2006-2008 we can fix you up by fall of this year.

Due to the hundreds of man hours required for tooling, a custom job would be very expensive. If I can be of any help if you choose to DIY, I will be glad to help by lending you any advice I can.

I have chosen not to take the lucrative contract job I spoke of earlier on page one of this thread. I have now commited to get the aero cap to market. There comes a time in everyones life when you just have to see what you are made of. That time for me is now.

Brett
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Tundraero.jpg (20.3 KB, 184 views)
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2008, 08:56 PM   #49 (permalink)
Dartmouth 2010
 
SVOboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hanover, NH
Posts: 5,925

Vegan Powa! - '91 CRX DX
Team Honda
90 day: 66.52 mpg (US)
Thanks: 44
Thanked 35 Times in 29 Posts
Send a message via AIM to SVOboy Send a message via MSN to SVOboy Send a message via Yahoo to SVOboy Send a message via Skype™ to SVOboy
Strong words brett! Good luck,
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2008, 09:11 PM   #50 (permalink)
Nomadic Chicken
 
WaxyChicken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 344
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You win or loose, but you never fail if you give a real effort.
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread

Thread Tools


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/commercially-produced-aerodynamic-pickup-bed-cap-583.html
Posted By For Type Date
Pickup Truck Aerodynamics - Kosmix : Reference, Videos, Images, News, Shopping and more... This thread Refback 11-03-2009 10:41 PM
Need helping finding a truck cap - BoatingABC.com This thread Refback 09-03-2009 09:54 AM

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How much do y'all pay for trash pickup? roflwaffle Saving@Home 15 08-23-2009 11:46 AM
Daihatsu Mira aerodynamic modifications newtonsfirstlaw Aerodynamics 5 06-13-2009 10:43 PM
Sources of Aerodynamic Drag in Automobiles and Possible Solutions SVOboy Aerodynamics 10 07-03-2008 04:00 PM
Easy Aero Fix? (Modding a pickup?) DifferentPointofView Aerodynamics 51 05-30-2008 11:43 PM
SAE report: Pickup Truck tailgate aerodynamics... better up, down, or off? MetroMPG Aerodynamics 4 01-08-2008 10:40 AM


Car Rental in Cyprus
Car rental in Cyprus is easy to organise at Dealchecker and you can explore the island!



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com