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Old 02-02-2008, 07:37 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I am interested in making a home-built version of Bondo's super-cool truck capper.

I was originally thinking using coroplast. My S10 is white, and that's one of the stock colors you can get it in.

One thing I like about the S10 is that you have great visibility looking out the back and checking blind-spots. Any type of a cap would greatly reduce this.

What do you think of making the entire top-angled part of the cap out of plexiglass or acrylic? Or at lease making a REALLY BIG window in it. Bondo's design is great, but those windows sure look small to me.

I know that there are various materials used for greenhouses. Maybe there is some sort of greenhouse material that would make a great aero-cap and still keep good visibility?
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I've seen one made from lexan. I'll track down a picture.
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I am interested in making a home-built version of Bondo's super-cool truck capper.

I was originally thinking using coroplast. My S10 is white, and that's one of the stock colors you can get it in.

One thing I like about the S10 is that you have great visibility looking out the back and checking blind-spots. Any type of a cap would greatly reduce this.

What do you think of making the entire top-angled part of the cap out of plexiglass or acrylic? Or at lease making a REALLY BIG window in it. Bondo's design is great, but those windows sure look small to me.

I know that there are various materials used for greenhouses. Maybe there is some sort of greenhouse material that would make a great aero-cap and still keep good visibility?
Bennelson,

You're right. Rearward visibility is very limited on the prototype aero cap. I have installed larger windows in the production design. Darin mentioned the see thru aero cap he had seen. I have pics of it somewhere also and will see if I can find them.

If you choose to use a clear plastic, make sure it is polycarbonate (lexan). Acrylic can shatter like glass and break up in large sharp edged pieces. The best remedy I have found for seeing while backing up is the $90.00 backup camera sold at Wal Mart. I have had mine installed since I put the prototype on my truck back in April of last year. Easy to install, works great!

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Hey, Bondo, If i get a pickup truck later on then would i be able to order a Aero-Cap from you if i provide the measurements for the bed/cab?
(just something I'm considering)
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Another way of doing a "home-brew" version of this cap might be to build a lightweight (aluminum?) frame and covering it with shrinkable plastic.

Do you think the material from those "window insulation kits" would be durable enough? You can buy those cheap at the end of every winter. Being clear, they wouldn't restrict visuals at all. Wouldn't be good for locking things up in the back of the truck the way a hard top can, but we are speaking aerodynamics here..

Otherwise, how about the shrink material used for model airplane wings? It's sturdier and comes in different colors. I am not sure about the expense or the size that material is available in.
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Hey, Bondo, If i get a pickup truck later on then would i be able to order a Aero-Cap from you if i provide the measurements for the bed/cab?
(just something I'm considering)

Hey Waxy,

If you choose to get a 2005 -2008 F150 6.5 foot bed, I can fix you up now. Next we are doing tooling for the 2007 - 2008 Tundra, so if you maybe getting a Tundra we can fix you up by July of this year. Next if you choose to get a Chevy or GMC 2006-2008 we can fix you up by fall of this year.

Due to the hundreds of man hours required for tooling, a custom job would be very expensive. If I can be of any help if you choose to DIY, I will be glad to help by lending you any advice I can.

I have chosen not to take the lucrative contract job I spoke of earlier on page one of this thread. I have now commited to get the aero cap to market. There comes a time in everyones life when you just have to see what you are made of. That time for me is now.

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