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Old 08-21-2015, 05:11 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:29 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 08-22-2015, 11:53 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I have commuted through rural country for a number of years and seeing deer and other wildlife often. They respond best to sound so I use the horn anywhere I suspect they might be lurking. Loud pipes don't give as much indication of speed or direction. Wild boar are a real problem in southern states and hunting is unrestricted. Caution, in NYS only state game personnel may eradicate boars.
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Old 08-23-2015, 05:34 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Then that would pretty much limit one to city riding... That might be fun for only so long and there are more hazards there. (during all hours)
Even in city there are some hazards. Kids, large dogs, objects falling from trucks or intentionally thrown at motorcyclers...
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I'll take on natures hazards on 2-lane vs city traffic(mostly left turners infront of bike daily, any time of day or night). Never understood open face helment either for motocycles or pedal bike either. Lots of expensive/fragile to fix stuff up front.
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I'm a fan of streamlining and streamlined cycles, but I think they may increase the risk of injury in the event of a crash.

The rider being partially enclosed increases the chances of being thrashed by the cycle during a crash instead of being tossed clear and tumbling solo.

Not sure if it contributed to Craig's injuries, but I've always though it could.
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I believe it's much like an automobile crash, where it is better to stay within the crumpling vehicle than it is to be thrown out of it.

Of course, automobiles have airbags & seatbelts to protect you within the vehicle, whereas motorcycles don't.
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I believe it's much like an automobile crash, where it is better to stay within the crumpling vehicle than it is to be thrown out of it.

Of course, automobiles have airbags & seatbelts to protect you within the vehicle, whereas motorcycles don't.
That is only true if you have some type of rollover (rollbar) and crash protection (sidebars) and are strapped in. Then you can safely stay with the vehicle in a crash.

With a motorcycle you want to be separated from it as quickly as possible to reduce the chances of ending up under it when it stops or having it strike you if it violently flips.
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Anyone heard the latest on Craig's condition?
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Until recently motorcycles have not had much in the way of crash protection. Sometimes the things we learn in our youth stick with us long after they have gone out of date. Clearly doing a barrel roll down the road being thrashed by a 400 lb. piece of metal is to be avoided. At the track one can kick free and slide to a halt fairly safely. On the highway there are many obstacles to strike. Can a motorcycle fairing be designed to protect the rider in a crash? Certainly. Without seeing the photographs of the Vetter Helix after the crash it would be difficult to gauge what effect the streamlining had in the injuries Craig suffered. We don't know if the nose pushed the deer up into Craig's face or whether he struck the windscreen and upper turret. Fiberglass does not absorb crash energy the same way as sheet metal or Plexiglas. What we do know from high speed human powered racer crashes is that a rigid shell and a lap belt go a long way in protecting the rider. I use a full face Bell helmet and design my fairings to reduce possible injury in a crash.

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