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Old 10-02-2009, 09:12 AM   #11 (permalink)
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If you are concerned about aero, it sure wouldn't hurt to lose that huge antenna on your roof
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If you are concerned about aero, it sure wouldn't hurt to lose that huge antenna on your roof

Sorry that CB Radio is mighty powerful, and the antenna is a class leader and made of copper with a silver coating. My test so far show NO difference in my mileage with it on or off. It's like a knife when I drive, it cuts through the wind and bends backwards. To me such a sight is beautiful! In these parts a CB radio is almost as common as a cell phone when on the interstate. I can be herd 20 miles away with my system through mountains, but before I had it worked on I could only get out about a mile because these mountains stop your signal from going very far. It's the next best thing to On Star and a Cell Phone WITHOUT THE MONTHLY BILL! ALL DRIVERS SHOULD HAVE ONE.

I could write a book on the CB slang and all the advantages on using one on long drives. Cell phones are nice, but you normally can not just pick it up and talk to the driver that just went past you. The CB is like part of me.

Also I think it helps the local police recognize me. haha.. I'm the only Cobalt XFE in this county as far as I know, AND after dark I drive in EOC often, with a bright GPS, a Valentine One radar direction detector, Supped up CB Radio with the obvious 7 foot antenna on top. Some people see me in their mirrors and slow down (guess I must be a cop, eh?) and when police are behind me they don't follow me for very long any more. I honestly think they know exactly where I live, my age and everything. And I think their target are young twenty-somethings going to the big school here that are partying and driving, so they sometimes seem to think I'm a kid but they seem to recognize my gear on.in the car and normally they just move on looking for the trouble maker they originally thought I was. It's a small city I live near, it does not take long to recognize who drives what. But I just have to laugh sometimes because I'm sure the police sitting in speed traps must get a laugh out of my tiny car with the 7 foot antenna every time they see it. Once I had a cop directly behind me on my bumper in a good mood see my fancy radar detector and he started turning on his radar gun on and off until I see him in the mirror and he grinned and flashed his brights at me. I guess there ok in my book, and the state boys can be reached on a cb just as fast as a cell phone here often times, I have had to do it before! lol

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New Photo. Read about it below picture.

A detailed picture of the wing from the rear.
This picture also shows my entire "7 foot tall Roof Mounted Night Time Bat-Killer"

(After dark my cb antenna has been known to hit flying bats)
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
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As far as I can tell they run into ME first. Kind of like the Deer when they panic and run straight at your car because they are blinded by the headlights.

Hey, these critters are GREAT for farmers with large gardens, they eat anything that eats your garden AND I'm pretty sure they eat Skeeters too! Some farmers buy their eggs by the thousands on the internet so they can stay organic and not need any pesticide.


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Carlos - Downforce. They use them in NHRA/IHRA as well.

I don't remember the whole reason they work, but I think I remember something about Bernoulli in there, or maybe I was day dreaming during that lecture. Either way, they're there to produce downforce.

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The rear of the car seems almost perfect for aero from the rear windshield down, visually... it's not , but it seems that it is... if only they hadn't curved the deck lid like they did.
Ok, I'm gonna keep that in mind from now on. On the small chance that a "restrained' version of the spoiler might be helpful, I made a 10 degree ideal angle assumption in this picture :



But I also agree that the Cobalt already has a nice rear-window slope. Very Nissan 240SX-ish :



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Carlos - lower the front of the Cobalt 2 inches, and you get a lower angle for the rear airflow to achieve... I believe it would drop so that the natural edge of the decklid would be at or near that 10* point.
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Carlos - lower the front of the Cobalt 2 inches, and you get a lower angle for the rear airflow to achieve... I believe it would drop so that the natural edge of the decklid would be at or near that 10* point.
Oooooh, lots of combos here :

1 - Lower the front by 2 inches.
2 - Lower the front by 1 inch and raise the rear by 1 inch.
3 - Reduce the diameter of the front wheels by 1 inch and increase the diameter of the rear wheels by 1 inch. You'd get the 2 inch net and you could *claim* you were going for a classic race car look.

The first is the probably the best, but there's room for more choices.

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Do ALL that, then...

Really jack up the rear, paint the rear suspension pieces bright orange, and voila!~ the late '70s look!

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