Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > General Efficiency Discussion
Register Now
 Register Now

Now available from EcoModder: ScanGauge II fuel economy gauge.  Click for details.  

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-29-2011, 02:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
aero guerrilla
 
Piwoslaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 2,877

Svietlana - '05 307 SW
Diesel
90 day: 55.98 mpg (US)
Thanks: 668
Thanked 361 Times in 229 Posts
Do these window shades work?

A lot of cars here have "sunshades" suck to the inside of their windows:





They are just a black net/mesh, so I wonder if they actually help to lower the vehicle's temperature, as the manufacturer claims. Yes, they reduce the amount of direct sunlight hitting the passengers, but they do not reflect sunlight back out of the car (unless invisible heat/infrared is reflected). My guess is that they absorb direct sunlight and emit it as heat.

What do you think?

I've seen a few cars with white versions of these, and I'm willing to believe that these work, but I can't find any which aren't black.


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
Attached Images
File Type: jpg cc2.jpg (19.3 KB, 109 views)
File Type: jpg a471964e80caee41.jpg (74.4 KB, 110 views)
__________________
e·co·mod·ding: the art of turning vehicles into what they should be

What matters is where you're going, not how fast.

"... we humans tend to screw up everything that's good enough as it is...or everything that we're attracted to, we love to go and defile it." - Chris Cornell

Piwoslaw's Peugeot 307sw modding thread


Last edited by Piwoslaw; 06-17-2011 at 08:19 AM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 04:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Michigan
Posts: 93
Thanks: 9
Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts
White will reflect more light, both ways. It will be harder to see through the white than the black.

I usually see these used for a child,s seat where they are not tall enough to get their face up into the shadow of the roof. I agree that the black isn't going to reduce interior heat build up much, if at all.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 04:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
euromodder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Failed State Belgium
Posts: 2,956

Hägar - '05 V50 1.6L Diesel
Diesel
90 day: 52.27 mpg (US)

Snert - '06 S40 1.6L Diesel
90 day: 58.06 mpg (US)
Thanks: 87
Thanked 283 Times in 228 Posts
The moment the heat is through the glass and gets transfered to the air inside the car, most of the damage is done.

They'll help a little bit - even black reflects heat - and will keep away direct sunlight, so it feels a bit more comfortable.
__________________



Lifetime fuel consumption :
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 06:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
mcrews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: northern california
Posts: 1,362

The Q - '02 Q45 Sport
90 day: 23.08 mpg (US)
Thanks: 331
Thanked 183 Times in 127 Posts
The Infiniti has these built into the window sills in the back doors.
I still have the max legal tint applied to the window AND have a static (removable ) film on the window.


__________________
ECO MODS PERFORMED:
First, Grille Block
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...e-10912-2.html

Second, Full underbelly pan
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...q45-11402.html

third, rear skirts and 30.4mpg on trip! http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post247938
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 10:47 AM   #5 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Old Tele man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,352

Vibe - '09 Vibe Base (2ZR-FE)
90 day: 32.19 mpg (US)

Goldie Locks - '011 Cruze LTZ
90 day: 29.42 mpg (US)
Thanks: 56
Thanked 330 Times in 249 Posts
...I've used them. They work OK at keeping "direct" sunlight off of you and the passenger(s), but do NOT reduce the incoming solar-induced thermal load (heat), so A/C works just as long & hard as before...BUT, since you (and passenger(s)) aren't receiving direct sunlight, there *IS* a better 'comfort zone' than without them.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 11:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
mcmancuso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: TN-USA
Posts: 61

Green Metro - '99 Metro LSi Sedan
90 day: 32.78 mpg (US)

Metro Vert - '91 Metro LSi Convertible
90 day: 50.52 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
I've had some that are white on the outside and black on the inside, better visibility and heat reflecting than solid either color, don't know where they came from, they're pretty old.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 12:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Europe
Posts: 303

ZX - '97 ZX Monaco
OldContinents
90 day: 39.4 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 24 Times in 19 Posts
There is also shiny aluminium? shades that are meant to put on windshield while car is parked. I think that it should be installed outside of the window to have proper effect as such would just warm air between window and shade if put inside. Ok, surely it does work inside too, but I think effect is not so great with it inside.

Best solution, install Kammback and park car so that sun does shine on rear part of car
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 12:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Europe
Posts: 303

ZX - '97 ZX Monaco
OldContinents
90 day: 39.4 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 24 Times in 19 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcmancuso View Post
I've had some that are white on the outside and black on the inside, better visibility and heat reflecting than solid either color, don't know where they came from, they're pretty old.
I think that it would not be difficult to spray paint them?
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 12:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
mcmancuso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: TN-USA
Posts: 61

Green Metro - '99 Metro LSi Sedan
90 day: 32.78 mpg (US)

Metro Vert - '91 Metro LSi Convertible
90 day: 50.52 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Louvers, yeah...
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2011, 12:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
aero guerrilla
 
Piwoslaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 2,877

Svietlana - '05 307 SW
Diesel
90 day: 55.98 mpg (US)
Thanks: 668
Thanked 361 Times in 229 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcmancuso View Post
I've had some that are white on the outside and black on the inside, better visibility and heat reflecting than solid either color, don't know where they came from, they're pretty old.
That's exactly what I'd be willing to get. Maybe I'll just spraypaint them as jtbo suggested.

As for the shiny windshield block - I already have one, but it doesn't reduce thermal gain while driving, since it is folded and stowed then

Mcrews: Shades that hide inside the door liner is my ultimate goal


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
__________________
e·co·mod·ding: the art of turning vehicles into what they should be

What matters is where you're going, not how fast.

"... we humans tend to screw up everything that's good enough as it is...or everything that we're attracted to, we love to go and defile it." - Chris Cornell

Piwoslaw's Peugeot 307sw modding thread

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread

Thread Tools





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com