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[drmiller100]

Lets say I have a 120 volt AC generator.

And, Lets say I have a set of 4 lead acid batteries - each 12.6 volt nominal all in series.

Can I "rectify" or whatever the AC generator and make it a battery charger????

[JasonG]

Yep, simple diode bridge. Add a capacitor to smooth it.
If the amps are low, its under $5.
Bad part is the 160+ VDC will charge the batts REAL fast and blow them apart. It would only work if you had more batts in a series to get closer, say 12 of them.

A basic charger would be much safer

Not my drawing :



Wish I could take credit for it

[deathtrain]

yes you would have to rectify it. but your looking to charge a battery pack of 48 - 50vdc? to get that voltage that you need its not that easy.

you will need at about 58-60vdc and between 20-30 amps.

I would leave it 120 and install a battery charger

I know in my job i work with battery chargers. I know sens makes a 120vac input 24vdc @10 amp output charger thats a reasonable price. or Charles is another company.

[drmiller100]

I have 4 batteries in series. I want to charge them at once with 120 volts.
Seems to me 12.6 times 4 equals 50.4

Seems to me alternators normally charge batteries at 14 volts. So, it seems to me if I charged at 60 volts DC, I would be pretty close to perfect.

So if I take 120 volts, and stick a diode in it the right direction, I'm gonna kill one leg of the AC current, and have 60 volts peak charging my batteries.

Obviously it is not this simple, so what am I missing?

[drmiller100]

where do I find a 50 amp, 60 volt charger cheap?

[deathtrain]

is that your output? what type of input are you needing?

[drmiller100]

my input is an 8 horsepower briggs and stratten engine.

[D.O.G.]

Originally Posted by drmiller100

Obviously it is not this simple, so what am I missing?

120VAC (RMS) has a peak voltage about 170VAC.
No matter how it's rectified, you still have 170VDC peak. Even if it's pulsed, your batteries won't like that.

If you run the 120VAC through a suitable step down transformer, then rectify it, that'll work, but it'll probably cost you near the same as a "proper" battery charger anyway.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by drmiller100

where do I find a 50 amp, 60 volt charger cheap?

You could use a varriable AC transformer (varrac) and charge at what ever voltage you want. They can be had on ebay for cheap I bought my 300v 5kw varrac for $180, smaller can be had for a lot less.

I am sure you can pick up a small varrac for a lot less than a 48v DC charger.

Also you could automaticly control the charge time with cheap lamp timer or light switch (or heat lamp) timer from lowes.

[JasonG]

1: the batts will need something to reduce the amp draw to them. Even if you hooked a 60A rectified xfmr to them, the batts will try to draw as if they were a near short. Heavy charging will hurt them quickly.

2: charging at a higher pulsed voltage will not kill your batts, but you need to use a timer as oilpan4 stated. I've charged 36V and 48V golf carts/ scrubbers/ pickers with this circuit. I watched it, but about 4hrs oon a timer would be good.

3: Alternatively, you could use a xfmr to drop to around 39VAC then rectify that to DC and have a trickle charger.