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Old 10-05-2017, 06:49 PM   #1841 (permalink)
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There actually exists a TLD called .guru.

This went up on Jalopnik yesterday. Why did no-one mention it?

https://jalopnik.com/elio-motors-app...hat-1819145940

Apparently Shreveport, LA is tired of the drama, and just wants it to stop already.

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Old 10-05-2017, 10:22 PM   #1842 (permalink)
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Not a motorcycle, but the Suzuki Alto K10. Starts at around $5,300 in India.
Unfortunately they're not THAT cheap in Uruguay, but occasionally I still see some with Uruguayan plates roaming around in Porto Alegre.


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The Chery 1.0 (which is, not coincidentally, based on a Daewoo 1.0, which is based on an older Suzuki) is sold in the US for use in UTVs, so EPA certification is certainly possible without a lot of trouble.
You mean the engine used in the Chery QQ?

The 3-cyl 800cc might be the same, but Chery often claims its engines were developed in a partnership with an Austrian engineering company.


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The Chinese, in the meantime, have developed and built dozens of different three-wheel "car alternatives" that cost peanuts. Fulu still sells the same three wheeler I tested over a decade ago... still at around $3,000 wholesale.
I've already seen some of those Chinese 3-wheeled "car alternatives" in Uruguay, but the ones I saw were meant as an alternative to those car-based mini trucks made in Brazil. For passenger transport, the Indian models based in the Piaggio Ape were less successful, altough similar models and others with a more car-like cabin had been increasingly popular in Peru and Colombia.
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Old 10-06-2017, 01:50 PM   #1843 (permalink)
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I wonder if they could just pull a wheel off some of those Indian cars and then sell them in the USA? I would sign a promise saying I wouldn't put it back on. I've thought it would be a hoot to get a couple containers of them, make a dirt road course, and rent them out for races. It would be more fun than a Ferrari at an official racetrack.
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Old 10-06-2017, 03:22 PM   #1844 (permalink)
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I wonder if they could just pull a wheel off some of those Indian cars and then sell them in the USA? I would sign a promise saying I wouldn't put it back on. I've thought it would be a hoot to get a couple containers of them, make a dirt road course, and rent them out for races. It would be more fun than a Ferrari at an official racetrack.
Not sure about pulling a wheel off the Indian cars, but it may be just way easier to get some Chinese 3-wheel "cars", and eventually be able not just to use them off-road. It might be funny anyway.
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According to Buckminster Fuller, from his Omni-directional Transport days, the rear wheel should swing outward and track behind the outer front wheel.

As demonstrated by a Rrrrabbit here:

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Old 11-20-2017, 01:30 PM   #1846 (permalink)
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Gondors Ev here we go again
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Too much taper in plan, but at least it's electric. The US$10K price point is electrifying.
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I was thinking about getting a $500 Sondors fat tire electric bike. The price is pretty amazing. I can't get Wal-Mart's least expensive put together with the least expensive hub motor, controller, and Li-ion battery for under $500. The downside is converting my standard bike I already have would be less and also more stealth. The dumb forest service has outlawed any e-bikes from their roads and that's the vast majority around here. The state lands don't recognize anything under 500 watts with pedals that operates under 30mph as motorized so I can go on state lands and trails. The problem is they so intertwine and look like a checkerboard.one minute you are on state, then maybe some timber company land (which may be ok) then forest service which is against the law. BLM also considers it a motorcycle but are more likely to allow motorcycle trails.
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Sondors Ev here we go again
Lofty goals, slick website with few details, promised production in the future, three wheels, funded on the faith of the prospective customer...

Fool me once, shame on you!
Fool me twice, not stinking likely!

I wonder how much of the frame design is borrowed from Elio? I see too much family resemblance to be coincidence to my trained engineering eye.

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It's what Elio should have done: produce something, then expand. Sondors already sells EVs. Now they're looking to make a larger one.

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