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Old 02-04-2010, 06:19 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Driving without seatbelts is an asinine move. One pothole or sideswipe knocks you out of your driving position and innocent drivers or pedestrians will pay.
For sure. In my 35 years of driving that's happened to me or even anyone I know, oh, never.


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Old 02-04-2010, 06:22 PM   #152 (permalink)
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:30 PM   #153 (permalink)
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For sure. In my 35 years of driving that's happened to me or even anyone I know, oh, never.
Well, out of 280,000,000 people in the U.S., you must know, what, a couple hundred?

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Old 02-04-2010, 09:09 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Old 02-04-2010, 11:39 PM   #155 (permalink)
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I guess guys like this think they can slip their seat belts on while their cars are heading off the road and into the trees.
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:26 AM   #156 (permalink)
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I guess guys like this think they can slip their seat belts on while their cars are heading off the road and into the trees.
If you're banking on pulling a move like that, then you can bet on losing your chips.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:15 AM   #157 (permalink)
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I was a volunteer fireman. The maimed and mangled bodies we attended to never included Frank's friends.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:42 AM   #158 (permalink)
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I was a volunteer fireman. The maimed and mangled bodies we attended to never included Frank's friends.
Same here: Volunteer Fire/EMS (vehicle extrication specialized) and a paid Ambulance service in a large district in SE Ohio. My assigned rig at the paid EMS service was generally the first dispatched on "MVAs". Having had I-70 run through both departments increased the accident rate compared to other agencies. Coal truck hauling on switchback, mountainous roads proved dangerous as well. Having also worked in a Trauma Center / ER in the KC Metro Area has shown the exact same situation in a variety of vehicle contexts.

Seriously, belts are the simplest form of safety, and in my informal poll of survival rate, post incident or DOA, there's NO argument. Maybe it takes seeing that kind of graphic detail of trauma to the human body to get the point across.

In this case, there's a line between "civil disobedience" and "ignorance".

Again, we're not going to change opinions of the closed-minded. I often wonder why I try.

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I'm not defending the pushy salesmen, but most people who visit car dealerships are interested in buying a new car.
I was wanting to look at new cars and specifically was looking to see what brand new car was their $99 a month car.

If I buy a car, I buy it I never trade. They were talking trade but not talking anything about the cars on the lot only the act of me trading.
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I guess guys like this think they can slip their seat belts on while their cars are heading off the road and into the trees.
One of my childhood friends was severaly injured and spent years in rehabilitation and lost much of his mental prowess. The officers claimed he wasn't wearing a seatbelt, but he always did.

Seatbelts, even on newer cars do not always hold. I would not suggest going without a seatbelt but it seems they don't always work when needed.


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