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Old 01-01-2017, 03:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
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similar to the stock engine heater in my cummins.

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how about having a heater coil inside the oil pan, on the bottom to directly heat the oil?
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Old 01-01-2017, 04:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Not something I would do, as it is really a PITA to pull and install the pan.Those pads glue on in minutes and peel right off if they fail.
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Fingie that is what oilpan ment by:
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Look for a post soon for an immersion oil sump heater using a 1,200 watt hot water heater element.
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If I remember correctly his plan is to run the 1200w size element @200-600w to keep the surface of the element from getting hot enough to boil/vaporize the oil leaving the solids on the element AKA coking.
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Well I looked for the write up . I didn't fid it . OilPan did you pull it . Im referring to the one were you had pic.s of the 1" stainless ntp bung welded to an oil pan....
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Fingie that is what oilpan ment by:

If I remember correctly his plan is to run the 1200w size element @200-600w to keep the surface of the element from getting hot enough to boil/vaporize the oil leaving the solids on the element AKA coking.
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Well I looked for the write up . I didn't fid it . OilPan did you pull it . Im referring to the one were you had pic.s of the 1" stainless ntp bung welded to an oil pan....
This one? Fast warm up ideas: oil pan immersion heater

I'm interested in "the rest of the story", too.
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Yes thats it. I was using the wrong search turm. Thank you ThermionicScott.
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My 8L engine is on the stand right now, that's why I am working on the block heaters and oil sump heaters.
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Love the idea Oil Pan. Love most of your fast warm up ideas though haha. I have a short commute, so this kind of stuff is very important for me. 300W block heaters are okay, but more is definitely better in this area. The 1000W Cats heater on my Metro was perfect, and I'm looking forward to installing it on the Insight.
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I will put the cord in my heater and run it on the Kill-a-watt to see what it pulls. Great discussion!
Do you have a link for the stick on pads that you have used?
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This one is easy.
Install a second stock engine block heater or find your vehicles stock heater, get 2 of them and install.

What does that do?
You might think it wastes double the power.
It actually saves power. Instead of leaving the standard single 600 watt heater plugged in all night I have found that you really only need about two hours with double block heaters to reach close to the same level of heat you get running a single block heater all night.
I would consider leaving 600 watt block heater pugged in all night only when it's really cold outside (-20 F or colder). Usually 1-2 hours is enough for a normal I4-engine. A huge V8 might need more time.

I would rather have 600 watt block heater working together with a 200-300 watt oil heater. Oil heater heats the oil much faster than any block heater.

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