Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > General Efficiency Discussion
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-31-2016, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
V8 guy
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 4,896

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)
Thanks: 103
Thanked 1,142 Times in 839 Posts
Fast warm up ideas: Double engine block heaters

This one is easy.
Install a second stock engine block heater or find your vehicles stock heater, get 2 of them and install.

What does that do?
You might think it wastes double the power.
It actually saves power. Instead of leaving the standard single 600 watt heater plugged in all night I have found that you really only need about two hours with double block heaters to reach close to the same level of heat you get running a single block heater all night.

__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to oil pan 4 For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (01-11-2017), Daox (01-01-2017)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 12-31-2016, 06:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
ScanGauge <3
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: CID
Posts: 291

Winter Sacrifice - '96 Subaru Outback
Subaru
90 day: 26.37 mpg (US)
Thanks: 153
Thanked 96 Times in 68 Posts
As in, two of the ones that screw in to the block and heat up the coolant? I could see that working nicely.

I just got one of those 50W stick-on pads to see if applying a little heat to the oil helps out any. (The car already has a block heater.) If it doesn't, I'm only out $20.
__________________



Best tank (so far): 32 MPG
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2016, 09:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
V8 guy
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 4,896

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)
Thanks: 103
Thanked 1,142 Times in 839 Posts
Depending on what engine you have, they may be screw in or freeze plug type.
I have my 8L big block Chevy on an engine stand about to put freeze plug heaters in.
If I can make the pictures small enough on my phone to post on here I will.

Look for a post soon for an immersion oil sump heater using a 1,200 watt hot water heater element.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2016, 10:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
me and my metro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oregon
Posts: 255

Economy Saturn - '02 Saturn L200
Thanks: 77
Thanked 60 Times in 49 Posts
Pretty common up north to have two block heaters and plug in battery blankets. Good idea, fire trucks also have thermostatic switches on their block heaters since they are plugged in 24/7.
__________________
02 Saturn L200 5 speed
84 Gmc 6.5 na diesel K30 4x4
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2017, 12:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
V8 guy
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 4,896

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)
Thanks: 103
Thanked 1,142 Times in 839 Posts
I have a 1/2npt hole in the aluminum cylinder heads I would love to be able to plug thst hole with a temperature switch and use that to cut the block heater off above say around 100F. Put one in each head to control each heater and I would be all set.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2017, 11:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 1,792

2004 CTD - '04 DODGE RAM 2500 SLT
Team Cummins
90 day: 19.36 mpg (US)
Thanks: 826
Thanked 458 Times in 344 Posts
Amp draw versus heaters is my usual (and not well researched) question. Coolant and engine oil. Then battery blankets.
__________________
2004.0 DODGE Ram QC/LB 2500 2WD/NV-5600 305/555 ISB. 7,940-lb. Stock. 200,000 miles/5000-hrs @ 40-mph average.
1990 35' Silver Streak TT 7,900-lb.
8-cpm solo & 11-cpm towing; 21-mpg average past 54k-miles
Sold: 1983 Silver Streak 3411
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2017, 11:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
skyking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Tacoma WA
Posts: 1,197

Woody - '96 Dodge Ram 2500 SLT
Team Cummins
90 day: 23.82 mpg (US)

Avion and Woody - '96 Dodge/Avion Ram 2500/5th wheel combo
90 day: 15.1 mpg (US)

TD eye eye eye - '03 Volkswagen Beetle GLS
90 day: 49.05 mpg (US)

Mule - '07 Dodge Ram 3500 ST
Thanks: 457
Thanked 440 Times in 280 Posts
My plan: I got a yard light timer that is rated for 1875 watts resistive, and has a water resistant housing.
I just got the cord for my truck (yay!), and what I would do is add an oil pan pad, while keeping the load under 1500 watts or so total.
Then I would figure out a proper amount of time through trial and error. Set the timer, plug in and go to bed.
__________________




2007 Dodge Ram 3500 SRW 4x4 with 6MT
2003 TDI Beetle
2002 TDI Beetle

currently parked - 1996 Dodge 2500 Cummins Turbodiesel
Custom cab, auto, 3.55 gears
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2017, 12:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
me and my metro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oregon
Posts: 255

Economy Saturn - '02 Saturn L200
Thanks: 77
Thanked 60 Times in 49 Posts
Zerostart makes thermostats and y-cords.
__________________
02 Saturn L200 5 speed
84 Gmc 6.5 na diesel K30 4x4
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2017, 12:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
skyking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Tacoma WA
Posts: 1,197

Woody - '96 Dodge Ram 2500 SLT
Team Cummins
90 day: 23.82 mpg (US)

Avion and Woody - '96 Dodge/Avion Ram 2500/5th wheel combo
90 day: 15.1 mpg (US)

TD eye eye eye - '03 Volkswagen Beetle GLS
90 day: 49.05 mpg (US)

Mule - '07 Dodge Ram 3500 ST
Thanks: 457
Thanked 440 Times in 280 Posts
That won't do for me. I see no point in keeping an uninsulated cast iron 950 pound mass at a constant temperature all night, so the timer is still a part of my equation.
__________________




2007 Dodge Ram 3500 SRW 4x4 with 6MT
2003 TDI Beetle
2002 TDI Beetle

currently parked - 1996 Dodge 2500 Cummins Turbodiesel
Custom cab, auto, 3.55 gears
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to skyking For This Useful Post:
Daox (01-01-2017)
Old 01-01-2017, 01:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
V8 guy
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 4,896

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)
Thanks: 103
Thanked 1,142 Times in 839 Posts
This is what they look like:




The engine block heaters on most engines look like this.

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	2017-01-01 11.49.18.jpg
Views:	686
Size:	71.1 KB
ID:	21105  Click image for larger version

Name:	2017-01-01 12.03.34.jpg
Views:	650
Size:	66.2 KB
ID:	21106  
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.

Last edited by oil pan 4; 01-01-2017 at 02:11 PM..
  Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to oil pan 4 For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (01-11-2017), Daox (01-01-2017), Xist (01-01-2017)
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com