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[wasabi]

Hello all, I have been a lurker here for a few weeks and decided to join so I can see the awesome progress pics of peoples aeromods on their pick-up trucks.

I have a nissan frontier getting about 25-26mpg. I really want to get 30mpg. I have the tires up to 40psi, got the scangauge II, getting ready to do a full tune-up. Any other quick suggestions?

I plan to experiment in the future with a partial bed cover and a spoiler/wing on the back of the cab.

[Daox]

Welcome to the site. Definitly look at the 100+ hypermiling tips if you haven't already. Also, I would start looking at how to get a grill block on that vehicle. Good luck and keep us updated.

[greenitup]

welcome, why did you choose wasabi, any meaning?

[wasabi]

Thanks Daox, Im already looking for some coroplast for a top grill block.

Originally Posted by greenitup

welcome, why did you choose wasabi, any meaning?

Sorry to disappoint, It doesn't have a meaning. It's just the green stuff that goes on my sushi.

[Johnny Mullet]

And it's HOT!
Welcome.

[Red]

Welcome to EM

[azraelswrd]

Howdy wasabi!

To add to what everyone else said, just remember the 4 things that go into FE:

> driving style
> aerodynamics
> tires
> weight

[greenitup]

what really helps me is
eoc
p & G
slow acceleration
parking on hills (this allows me to get into motion with no gas and down through a few stopsigns. (stopping of course)

got no aero mods (yet.)

[whitevette]

Originally Posted by azraelswrd

Howdy wasabi!

To add to what everyone else said, just remember the 4 things that go into FE:

> driving style
> aerodynamics
> tires
> weight

These four are good; I might add : > Keep your speed down ... 50ish is better than 60ish! Actually, ~47 MPH is the upper limit ( before parasitic / ram air drag begins to take hold). Check classic pitot theory for more details....
Aerodynamics doesn't include pitot theory ; all cars ... dirty, clean, square, pointy, long, short ... have to penetrate the same air. Velocity rules! Aero is disturbance...pitot is penetration.

[JimL10]

I tried to get a jump on improving the milage on my 04 Frontier extgended cab by adding a gadget called Mileage Monster Hydrogen system. Cost a little under $700 installed. The net effect after 1395 miles appears to be pretty much negative. My recommendation is that you not waste your money.

I also have a Scan Guage II. Its readings seem to change more rapidly than I can compensate. Does anyone have any ideas for smoothing that might eliminate the rapid changes? I also would like to hear any ideas for improving the bricklike design that I have to deal with.

[trebuchet03]

Originally Posted by JimL10

I tried to get a jump on improving the milage on my 04 Frontier extgended cab by adding a gadget called Mileage Monster Hydrogen system. Cost a little under $700 installed. The net effect after 1395 miles appears to be pretty much negative. My recommendation is that you not waste your money.

I also have a Scan Guage II. Its readings seem to change more rapidly than I can compensate. Does anyone have any ideas for smoothing that might eliminate the rapid changes? I also would like to hear any ideas for improving the bricklike design that I have to deal with.

Bugger on the hydrogen thing (we, or at least I, would have told you that before the installation :/)

As for the SG, lower the refresh rate.... The instantaneous fuel consumption changes in real time. So either set the SG to report less frequently (it might average over the time period - and thus smooth out) or program the driver to smooth out the numbers in his/her head

As for brick like design - of your car or of the SG?

[JimL10]

Originally Posted by trebuchet03

Bugger on the hydrogen thing (we, or at least I, would have told you that before the installation :/)

As for the SG, lower the refresh rate.... The instantaneous fuel consumption changes in real time. So either set the SG to report less frequently (it might average over the time period - and thus smooth out) or program the driver to smooth out the numbers in his/her head

As for brick like design - of your car or of the SG?

It is nice that you could have told me, however, before making my purchase I searched these kinds of sites and found no comments relating to the value of Hydrogen generators.

[JimL10]

It is nice that you could have told me, however, before making my purchase I searched these kinds of sites and found no comments relating to the value of Hydrogen generators.

[whitevette]

Originally Posted by JimL10

It is nice that you could have told me, however, before making my purchase I searched these kinds of sites and found no comments relating to the value of Hydrogen generators.

The addition of hydrogen ( with oxygen ) has been tried, evaluated, written off by many on this ( and other ) MPG-type forums. I even set up a simple bench study...to determine "how much" hydrogen could be liberated from
water + NaOH. Result? Not nearly enough to justify spending the time & money on such a mod. Besides, H2 has different combustion characteristics than gasoline or diesel.