Forced air intake + warm air intake combined for better MPG?

[ps2fixer]

I'm not a professional in terms of cars and such, but was thinking since warm air intakes have been prooven to provide a better MPG, maybe using the high presure side of the front tires to route past the host exhaust would increase MPG? Or maybe I should ask, does forcing higher presure into the air box result in better MPG alone?

Reasion I ask is since I saw another user on this forum install a cone air filter and removed their air box for better intake flow, I could do similar but try to combine other ideas to get a larger gain just out of the engine.

I'm open minded and if this is not plauseable, please just tell me (and link me if there is discussion already, I couldn't find much).

Thanks!

PS. Current target car is a 1992 Toyota Camry, 2.2L auto, might be looking to get same body style (1993+) Corrola with a manal and 1.6L I think if I can get one cheap enough.

[mcrews]

First, define "forced air"?

No, let me. Turbocharger or supercharger. Since you aren't talking about either of those then your not going to be 'forcing' any air.

AND REALLY, you couldn't find one thread on warm air???????????????

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,820 from ecomodder.com for warm air. (0.11 seconds)

(luckily, I had time to waste)

There are two topics that we have beaten the dead horse on hundreds of times.
1. tire size
2. warm air/cold air

This isn't face book where you can't find that somebody went to the store 50 times.
It's a forum. It has a search button....that works really well.

[ps2fixer]

Sorry, I wasn't clear as to what info I can't seem to get much info on (probably my search terms). The warm air intake I came across no problem, but having the intake located in an area that is of higher air pressure, similar to a ram air hood, but thinking more of the high pressure areas either low and in front of the front tires sucking air in from the fender well (cleanest I think?), or the upper area behind the front tires. Another option would just have a small scoop at the front of the car after areo-modding it.

I'll keep searching around too.

[mort]

Originally Posted by ps2fixer

I'm not a professional in terms of cars and such, but was thinking since warm air intakes have been prooven to provide a better MPG, maybe using the high presure side of the front tires to route past the host exhaust would increase MPG? Or maybe I should ask, does forcing higher presure into the air box result in better MPG alone?

Hi ps2fixer,
The current discussions on warm air intakes claims that increased mpg is due to reduced throttle pumping losses, as hot air is less dense, so the throttle must be open wider to deliver the same mass of air. So this is improves efficiency at part throttle. If you had higher pressure that would increase the air density - so you see the problem.
-mort

[ps2fixer]

I do see your point, I would be basically making a cold air intake then heating it up lol. Thanks for the input, trying to think a little out of the box .

[Ladogaboy]

Also, something to note is that forced induction (anything that increases the pressure of the intake are, such as a turbocharger or supercharger) will, by default, result in higher air intake temperatures. As the air is condensed, it heats, and that is why most turbocharged cars will use an intercooler to cool the intake air to reasonable temperatures.

[ps2fixer]

Such fast replies!

Learning more and more every post I read.

Now I'm wondering about if a turbo is plausible for my car. I have read in the past of people converting the diesel Camry turbos to work on a gasser with an adjustment of the front engine mount to make the room. Probably something I should research after my LED conversion research .

Edit, answered my own question, pretty good read.

http://autospeed.com/cms/A_109931/article.html