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Old 01-26-2018, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Found a 2011 leaf for $5,900

I said i was going to try to find one, the problem is I only put aside $4,500 to buy one and I will only have about that much at least until the next gun show, which is in march, tax return time, or if I can get our pos VW sold.
Is that really how much they are worth?

Also does anyone know how much one of these can tow?
I know hitches are available, but haven't quite been able to find any info.

The car is 100 miles away but I'm not worried about getting it home, I already have the EV accessories every electric car owner will wish that they had some point, a diesel truck, car trailer and portable gen sets.

This particular car is a 2011, has 45k miles which seems like a lot.
It doesn't say that it comes with a level 2 charger, so I'm assuming it doesn't.
It would be the newest car I ever owned by a lot.

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Old 01-26-2018, 10:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would pass on that deal unless the battery was replaced.
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I would pass on that deal unless the battery was replaced.
Why?

45k doesn't seem like a lot to me. (but I haven't put a lot of research in to it)

The cheapest I've seen here was ~$10k (8k US), notably cheaper than any other...I asked why. It had a lot more miles on it than 45k, and the battery range was at about 75%...that's why it was cheaper. (and it sold within a few days of my discovering it).

Don't they have a big warranty for the battery?
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How many "bars" remain? The right-side white and red bars represent battery health, and 12 represents nearly 100% battery health, with about 15% drop in capacity for every missing bar. I've heard it's possible to reset this gauge, so you should get a bluetooth OBDII device and look at battery health with Leafspy.

I think prices will drop more as the Leaf II begins selling in quantity and people trade in or sell their gen I. Maybe I'll get one in 6 months to a year.

The level 1 EVSE that comes with the Leaf is pretty easy to safely modify to a level 2 EVSE.

I'm looking for a '13 or newer since Nissan replaced the grid heater with a heat pump, and doubled the power of the onboard charger.

Tow capacity is always dependent on driving conditions, how slow you can get away with going, and comfort level. I'd probably go up to 2k lbs if the distance is short and traffic was minimal.
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Old 01-27-2018, 12:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Agreed nearly 6,000 is too much, not going to buy it because I can't right now, would have to talk them down some.

All very good questions, I will start making a list.

I would love to mod the on board charger to level 2.
But can it still use 120v after the mod?
Because at my last house I had multiple out side 240v receptacles, for welders, plasma cutter and air compressors and I am working on it doing the same at our new house.
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If it matches your driving routine, I don't think you'd regret it. 50 miles or less/day would be about perfect, I guess.
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Don't they have a big warranty for the battery?
The Leaf battery warranty in the USA is 8 years or 100K miles.

Personally I would look for a 2013 or later in the SV or SL trim due to the heat pump and 6.6 kw charger.
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The 2013 up ones are still $7,000 to 9,000 and up.
The whole idea is I pay cash, I don't have $10,000+ laying around any more.
Then I wouldn't want to spend 9,000+ to buy a car that based on its previous years models could lose up to 4,000 in value in as little as 3 years.
I have no interest in something poised to loses value that fast.
If I did stuff like that I would be broke like everyone else.

Plus if I need more range I have the ultimate range extender, a diesel truck and car trailer with generator.
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Cheapest Leaf in Holland (2011, 81,509 km) goes for €9,900 including tax; that would be $12,300 US.
Gas at about $8 a gallon makes them worthwhile.
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I would love to mod the on board charger to level 2.
But can it still use 120v after the mod?
Yes, you'd just have to make an adapter cable.

(3.0)CONVERTING a LEAF LEVEL 1 (12AMP) CHARGER TO a LEVEL 2 (12AMP) CHARGER: 14 Steps

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