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Old 12-04-2012, 02:24 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I will follow a new thread

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yea after this thread went south with a salesman pitching crap I probably should

Best Additive for Your Car? Pennzoil Marine 2 Stroke Oil - Maxima Forums

Been testing

Pretty much it cleans out your engine and helps make up for the problems created from ethanol blended fuels. Over at the maxima forum guys are extremely critical and it actually appears to be generally accepted.

I didnt post a new thread because it's not %100 for mpg gains, but it sure can't hurt performance aka mpg.
I did a quick read on the LS1 forums - 51 pages - wow!

Quick check on BobIsTheOilGuy:

Pennzoil TC-W3 Full Syn - WM - Bob Is The Oil Guy

I am not an additive evangelist or regular, but use them from time to time. Lucas UCL or Chevron Techron. Never store brand. But maybe only 3 or 4 times a year.

If I can find this Pennzoil synthetic TC-W 3 2 stroke marine oil locally, and find some sort of bottle laying around to give me accurate dosage, I will be part of your test fleet. I have no UG or SG yet, but I have OEM avg fuel econ, plus my calcs at every fill up.

My MPG is seeming to be steadier now - cold weather coming though. But, I will add data FWIW to your new thread if you set one up.

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Old 12-04-2012, 03:00 PM   #52 (permalink)
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prophecy99,
Start a thread!
Just read the maxima thread.
I'm in.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:22 PM   #53 (permalink)
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BITOG links - TC-W 3 is liked there

Prophesy99, there is an additives forum that might be best home if you start thread.

In the mean time, some links:

TCW3 Definitive Thread? - Bob Is The Oil Guy

All TCW3 the same? - Bob Is The Oil Guy

I bought a quart of Lucas UCL and a pint of Walmart brand Super Tech TC W 3. Gonna use up the Lucas and then will use the bottle to measure and dispense the Ash Less 2 stroke oil.

Seems like the verdict is at these minuscule ratios, with it's job just to be a solvent and an UCL, brand of TCW3 does not matter. The fact that is rated TCW3 is the important thing.

Just shake well first.
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I have been using TC-W3 for the past 5 months. My Infinity G35 runs much smoother. The combination of the TC-W3, some driving changes and increasing tire pressure to the max recommended have improved MPG by 19.52%. I made all these changes at the same time, so I cannot attribute anything other than the smoothness to the TC-W3. Oh, my last smog test passed with flying colors, with the TC-W3 in the tank.

And I am using the Walmart brand, FYI.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:31 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I would like to possibly particpate in the data pool, if we can address the issue of whether it is superior to Seafoam through the brake booster vac line to clean the system downstream, or through the injectors down from there (or a combination).

For the Integra, I keep a strict fuel log with similar routes-per-tank (Mother Nature is the biggest variable) ...and I'm to the point of making easy mods due to the lack of "excess free time" these days. Winter mods are already installed and utilized, with a baseline established.

Convince me and I'm in. Before tossing it in the tank of the beloved Integra, I need some assurance that it doesn't render harm or contribute to excessive emissions (over the current treatment of Seafoam via vac line every 6-months, in the fuel tank every 2-3 months, and in the crankcase once a year (dump in, drive for 5-minutes, drain and fill with oil).

There's so much talk and supportive background, it looks worthy of testing.

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Old 12-07-2012, 02:22 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I agree with rattroddrebel on using better gas. I work as a courier in my own car. I drive from my city to another about 100 miles away make deliveries and come back. I use to fill up at the cheapest gas station I could find for 5yrs. The most my car would give my was 260 mile a tank. Then I decided to try a more expensive gas station. I used the same grade just better brand. From that day on I was getting 340 miles a tank. I've been buying that brand for 6yrs now. I have told my co-workers and friends. All the couriers in the company now avoid the cheap stuff. Even my friends that dont drive much have reported gains. Not every one makes a science out of fuel savings. Most every day people usually meassure by how many miles they get out of a tank. Its not a bad thing either. Most people have the same route to and from work. So if they notice they are filling up less and seeing more miles on there trip meter for that tank with out changing their everyday routine. Then saying "I get more miles to the tank" is an ok form of measure. It's funny cause I meet people with the same model of car and everytime we talk about gas prices they all say they get about 260m a tank. I tell them I would get the same untill I tried better gas. Next time I see them they all say I was right. I just found this site and hope to learn a lot more from you guys.
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here is the new link to the TC-W3 testing....
Open discussion on using TC-W3 oil as an additive
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I always use the cheapest gas I can find. I just started a new fuel log in a notebook that has more room to write than my repair manual. Maybe I'll track gas stations as well. I seemed to not have noticed a difference though.
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I agree with rattroddrebel on using better gas ... Most every day people usually meassure by how many miles they get out of a tank.
I definitely agree that a higher-quality fuel is worth the slightly extra cost. Nearly all fuel is created equal (and shoved through the pipeline with overlap in suppliers), but custom additives make the difference. "Top-Tier" Fuel retailers have been rated by vehicle manufactuers to basically clean deposits, fuel injectors, etc. But remember, physical characteristics of the station itself can render excellent fuel, rather crummy (aging storage tanks, and so on).

Here in the Midwestern Plains, Quiktrip has been our choice for >97% of fillups in all vehicles in the last 6-7 years (and wherever possible in rentals). Plus, where else can you get a 52 oz. drink on the cheap, and a cheeseburger in the shape of a hot dog (called, the "roller")? ...exactly.

They were 1 of the first 2 first companies to achieve the Top-Tier Detergent Fuel rating (along with Chevron) -- now several name brands are certfied.. I may be biased because they are often the cheapest around, a 2-minutes up the street, employ many people in the area, and can be found all around KC, (and further markets).

As far as the statistical method goes for total miles-per-tank, it may be the best (only) option for those of us not as passionate about tracking FE (but has a low rate of accuracy.) At least they're talking about it, which is the first step in the right direction...

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