The future of carbon fiber? Affordable for most vehicles ?

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by kach22i

No thread like this is complete without mentioning the Trabant of East Germany and the Duroplast it was made of.

That's another good example.

Originally Posted by All Darc

Alcoholism it's a huge probblem in southeast too, and among young women rised nearly twice in last 9 or 10 years. "Feminism" through media exploitation is making gender equal by turning women as bad as man. Booze industry got richer.

That's a good point. No wonder I usually say that feminism is actually the worst enemy of women. BTW once some feminazis started whining because my FEMALE dog raised one of its paws to urinate, until they figured out...

A question, how buy from Alibaba being on Brazil ?
If our taxes and taxes rules are the devil, and manytimes taxes people based in a value much more espensive than what was paid in reality, how to buy for example solar cells that on Alibaba are 1/3 the price than on eBay, like the SunPower solar cells ?

Try Paraguay

[teoman]

Our customs are also backwards, you have to document what you paid for it really well and present those documents.

[All Darc]

Thank you for posting the link.
But unless I wrong, (correct me if I am) fiber glass can come from recycled glass.

But if duroplast it's as strong, as lightweight, the easier molding/shape would be a good advantage over fiberglass. The only left factor is price.
Isn't it flamable or burn easier than fiberglass ?

Originally Posted by kach22i

No thread like this is complete without mentioning the Trabant of East Germany and the Duroplast it was made of.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duroplast

[kach22i]

More alternatives being created everyday.

DSM Engineering Plastics launches 5 new grades of its bio-based Ecopaxx resin
https://www.dsm.com/content/prcc/cwo...d-ecopaxx.html

EcoPaXX is bio-based and has zero carbon footprint

EcoPaXX is 70% bio-based: 70% of the polymer consists of building blocks derived from castor oil as a renewable resource.

[All Darc]

One thing it's the formal definition of feminism (from old times), and another thing it's this crazy sh... they are doing on Brazil and other countries.
Hipocrisy became a virtue among many brainwashed people in our country.

While many crazy feminists make society loose time and maney with thing like a dog sniff in such areas, or drink menstrual blood, other womens, poor ones, are in horrible situation with abusive husbands.

Funny how such moviments says to have anger from bad sexist man, but when a man is reserved and rejects a woman which was interested on hin, she got anger like the man had obligation to be a dog for her. They get pissed off, like it was a crime against women, and try to destroy hin talking bad for all people she knows, and most her female friends got anger to. It's like for them (crazy feminist of today) man should be a dog only when they (feminists) wishes.

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

That's a good point. No wonder I usually say that feminism is actually the worst enemy of women. BTW once some feminazis started whining because my FEMALE dog raised one of its paws to urinate, until they figured out...

[freebeard]

"Feminism" through media exploitation is making gender equal by turning women as bad as man....

No wonder I usually say that feminism is actually the worst enemy of women.

One thing it's the formal definition of feminism (from old times), and another thing it's this crazy sh... they are doing on Brazil and other countries.
Hipocrisy became a virtue among many brainwashed people in our country.

This would really be more appropriate in The Lounge, but I'll say this...

Commies invented brainwashing, but Mark Zuckerberg has raised it to an artform.

kach22i —

high melting point (highest of all bio-based polyamides: ca. 250°C, see graph

That's pretty hot. They talk about injection molding, I wonder if it would be used for impregnating basalt fiber.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by All Darc

unless I wrong, (correct me if I am) fiber glass can come from recycled glass

IIRC it's not usually made from recycled glass. No wonder the industry is looking out for more sustainable options, such as wheat straw that is already used by GM to reinforce plastic interior trim parts in some of their cars.

Isn't it flamable or burn easier than fiberglass ?

Flame-retardant agents are usually embedded to the resin, not to the fiber itself. Even steel sponge (bombril) burns quite easily.

[freebeard]

That's what I found interesting in kach22i's post about Ecopaxx resin. Basalt is good for 650°C, so it still falls short.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by freebeard

That's what I found interesting in kach22i's post about Ecopaxx resin. Basalt is good for 650°C, so it still falls short.

Are you trying to make a fire proof car?

I don't know the heat index of carbon fiber off hand or what type of resin is used, I do know the next generation of supersonic transport is using this material.

https://www.aerionsupersonic.com/technology/

The Aerion airframe will be constructed largely of carbon fiber composite structures, with titanium used for leading edges and some internal structures.

Aerion AS2 Supersonic Business Jet - Le Grand Mag

Construction of the aircraft will include use of carbon fibers (fuselage, wings, engine nacelles, tail), aluminum, steel and corrosion-resistant titanium (wing leading edges).

https://www.aviationcv.com/aviation-...c-business-jet

The body will be made most of carbon fiber

That image above might be a mock-up, not sure.

Boeing 787 Dreamliner ( 7E7) below.

Carbon Fiber Epoxy Composite
http://sahil34935.blogspot.com/2013/...composite.html

In the co-curing method, preformed uncured parts are placed surface to surface on a carefully made mold, squeezed together with a vacuum bag, and placed in a large pressure vessel called an autoclave. Here they are subjected to high pressure and temperature while the epoxy cures. In the co-bonding process, preformed and pre-cured parts are glued together with epoxy, and the glue joints are cured using the vacuum bag and autoclave method.

[All Darc]

Supersonic it's not ecologic, since it uses more fuel per 100 miles travelled. Nice but not eco friend.

Back to solar electric cars, this is the second home made solar car I found on web that do not look like crap :

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/n...re-id539714790

The first was this (but students work and not exactly home made, as it was a team :

http://www.solarmobilmanipal.in/