11-24-2008, 03:26 PM
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11-24-2008, 05:34 PM
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papa smurf - '81 pickup 4wd dlx long bed 1/2 ton 90 day: 18.11 mpg (US) Heep - '011 Grand cherokee Larado x 90 day: 19.31 mpg (US) Da bike - '06 Shadow Vlx deluxe 90 day: 53.94 mpg (US)
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wow, didnt expect that at all.
that was a good run trooper  .
my 2.7 liters of fury and top speed of 60 helped me out.
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11-24-2008, 07:21 PM
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Is it just me or there's something wrong with the handicap system?
I need to do 23.12 mpg better than my opponent to win the first round. Is that it? If so that's seriously biased towards low mpg vehicles. Suppose we have a 100 mpg car going up against a 20 mpg one. That would be +80 mpg for the 20 mpg car. If the 100 mpg car pulls a 80 mpg he automatically looses if the 20 mpg car can pull 0+ mpg.
It should be measured in fuel volume by distance.
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11-24-2008, 07:36 PM
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papa smurf - '81 pickup 4wd dlx long bed 1/2 ton 90 day: 18.11 mpg (US) Heep - '011 Grand cherokee Larado x 90 day: 19.31 mpg (US) Da bike - '06 Shadow Vlx deluxe 90 day: 53.94 mpg (US)
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volume by distance
aint that mpg?
it goes from your 90 day. if both of u got the exact as your 90 day u would tie.
with the weather, you are pushing to see how close or how much more than it.
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98 taco base 4x4 i4 toyota bought back due to a rust spot. gone but not forgotten.
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11-24-2008, 08:29 PM
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Teggy's been sitting in parking lot during some travel, so I'll likely fill up close to after the Holiday.
I got about 150 miles with the near-60F weather last week. Did it help? Stay tuned to find out!
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11-24-2008, 10:18 PM
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tasdrouille -
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Originally Posted by tasdrouille
Is it just me or there's something wrong with the handicap system?
I need to do 23.12 mpg better than my opponent to win the first round. Is that it? If so that's seriously biased towards low mpg vehicles. Suppose we have a 100 mpg car going up against a 20 mpg one. That would be +80 mpg for the 20 mpg car. If the 100 mpg car pulls a 80 mpg he automatically looses if the 20 mpg car can pull 0+ mpg.
It should be measured in fuel volume by distance.
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I like the setup because the handicap allows for diversity in car matchups, and needs to be in place for multiple rounds. From my POV, we should run the table and do a post-game analysis.
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11-24-2008, 10:28 PM
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I think that if your 90-day is 100, and this tank gets 80... then how could that possibly be called a win?
The only thing I can think of is to see who can get the highest percentage of their 90 day. If you 90-day is 20mpg and you get 18, then your score is 90. If your mpg is 100 and you get 95, then your score is 95... same thing would work in the opposite direction. If your mpg is 50 and you get 54, then your score is 108
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11-24-2008, 10:29 PM
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maybe we should try that for round 2? if everyone likes that idea...
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11-25-2008, 11:31 AM
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Sean, that would be fair.
To take my previous example, a 20 mpg car vs a 100 mpg one. If the 100 mpg car pulls 98 mpg and the 20 mpg pulls 19 mpg, how it's setup right now the 20 mpg car would win. One mpg at 20 mpg is a lot more fuel than at 100 mpg.
The same problem swings back to other way when the 100 mpg car does better. If the 100 mpg car pulls a 102 and the 20 mpg car pulls 21, the 100 mpg car would win. Whereas it should have been the 20 mpg car.
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11-25-2008, 02:01 PM
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We have another final result in the 1st round...
Big Dave and his Red Baron F-350 took down Neil and Mica Blue...not even sure if Big Dave knows he's in the tourney but he got a win.
Updated bracket is attached...
To answer the ongoing debate about the tourney and what statistics we should use to evaluate tanks...all suggestions are good ones but we are committed to the current setup and can make changes if needed for future tourneys. It's not fair to change the rules and eliminate people in round 1 that would have been in round 2 under the new rule suggestion.
Last edited by Matt Herring; 11-25-2008 at 02:08 PM..
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