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Old 07-17-2008, 02:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm sure everyone here drives the speed limit or under (max fe). But has anyone ever counted how many cars pass you going 10 to 15 miles over the speed limit. Why do people think that this country (in general) is so dependent on oil? If people just slowed down roads would be safer and everyone would use less fuel. Less fuel consumption = less demand = lower prices. I can't stand listening to people complain about the price of gas when they drive 75 mph on a road that is posted at 55mph. Just my rant, I'm done now.


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Old 07-17-2008, 03:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I started counting since I learned about HM and on average about 2 cars pass me every 10 miles of driving. But I'd say most aren't going that much faster -- maybe 5mph more. I'd estimate maybe 1 driver out of 100 miles have I encountered the barn burners. People really have slowed down but they're still accelerating up to stop lights so by the time I get there it's green and I'm passing the guy who raced up to it 5-7 seconds earlier.

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Old 07-17-2008, 03:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm sure everyone here drives the speed limit or under (max fe).
Wrong! And I do it for fuel economy, too. (Well, sometimes :-))

I live in the mountains, you see, where there are long downhill runs - 20 miles or more, some of them. When I go down them, I'm in fuel cutoff mode so using zero gas. Therefore I go as fast as practical, since the gravity's already paid for, and the extra speed will let me coast over any small rises and further out on the flat.

But in general I have no problem with people going fast. After all, on level ground I can get 50-60 mpg at 70 mph, while those people in the gas-guzzlers would be hard pressed to get 20 mpg at 45 mph. Speed's not the problem: oversized, inefficient cars are.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I was out on the Pa. Turnpike and I-79 today and people have slowed down. I didn't see much speeding in general. Most drivers were running right at the limit or under by a few mph.
I must note one exception. On I-579 heading south into Pittsburgh I had a full size Chevrolet or GMC van with U.S. Government plates blow by me at least 20 mph over the limit. He was also weaving in and out of the lighter than normal traffic.
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Most of the drivers on my commute I know are 10-15 over. They are nearly always driving the speed that the NEXT speed limit sign says. So if I pass the last 50 mph sign in a zone, they are already gunning it to be 65+ when the 65 mph sign comes up a mile away. I always feel like I am the only one who does the speed limit...

I have noticed that there is an increasing number of people that are following me and not passing even at 55 mph or less. That is nice, BUT it also means I can't pulse and glide. The good and the bad, I guess.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I just took a trip and drove as the romans drove.. doing 75-80mph the entire 260 miles, filled up before and after the trip, averaged 47 mpg.. better than EPA even at those speeds.. my car has extensive areo mods that allow for this to happen , just proves that cars need to be small light and aerodynamic and you can get great mpg's even at crazy speeds.. the better the aerodynamics the faster you can go with out killing the mpg's
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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But in general I have no problem with people going fast. After all, on level ground I can get 50-60 mpg at 70 mph, while those people in the gas-guzzlers would be hard pressed to get 20 mpg at 45 mph. Speed's not the problem: oversized, inefficient cars are.
hi all.. long time lurker, first time poster here, and I have to agree with the above. Isn't the ultimate goal to have high FE at all speeds? it certainly is for me. I only hope that I can get half of Basjoos' 80mpg at 80mph with my tc, but then i have no intention of going as far as he has with the mods ^^. My goals are more to be able to improve my car's performance across the board.

lets not go into why gas costs so much, because that is far more affected by our politicians and their policies than by our driving habits.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I drive on major highways mostly (I-95) and I'm usually the slowest out there driving at the speed limit. I do understand that politicians do control the price of gas to some extent, but I believe that some of it is based on the priniciple of supply and demand. I don't know why people complain, we still have some of the cheapest gas in the world. Maybe people should drive smaller, lighter cars instead of their GMC Yukon or Cadillac Escalade.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I realized one day about a year ago that when i drove my regular 200km from my house to my parents' house that nobody would pass me. That meant that I was the fastest person on the highway for 200km. Bad idea. Funny, the ONLY people that ever did pass me drove suv's and pickup trucks.

Now I drive in the slow lane and I pass maybe a dozen trucks and 2-3 cars making the same trip.
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
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thing is, most of those higher prices around the world are caused by heavy taxes, and it has been like that for decades - in sweden for example, gas was somewhere around $1.50 per litre the last time I was there about 10 years ago, which was about the same as it cost per gallon here during the same period. that difference was all in taxes.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I drive mostly on State routes with a 55 MPH speed limit. Most of the time, I do not get passed when cruising at 55 MPH, but when someone does pass me, it's an idiot in a large SUV or pickup going 70+ MPH. I usually catch them and pass those idiots at the next traffic light anyway while sporting "57 MPG" right on my back window.
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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thing is, most of those higher prices around the world are caused by heavy taxes...
Which I have no problem with. I'd like to see a carbon tax on oil and coal, if it was offset by a decrease in the income tax. Or as I saw the other day "Tax Burning, Not Earning"
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Which I have no problem with. I'd like to see a carbon tax on oil and coal, if it was offset by a decrease in the income tax. Or as I saw the other day "Tax Burning, Not Earning"
The problem with consumption taxes like this is it disproportionately affects low income people.
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Old 07-18-2008, 04:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I've noticed quite a lot of people in my (right) lane recently. A lot of them are oversized SUVs with a single passenger at that. Of course I get annoyed when they're going 50 in a 55 and hit the brakes when they start to creep over it.

I just want to yell "You're doing it wrong!" but that would mean rolling down my window and killing FE

On a related note: many local parking lots littered with SUVs with FOR SALE signs in the windows...
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Old 07-18-2008, 10:12 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm sorry. My friend was late and FE wasn't the priority at the moment.

I've noticed much slower traffic. It's too bad on 2 lane highways there's someone passing them going only 1mph faster.
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Old 07-18-2008, 10:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I lose track very soon into the trip. Doesnt matter whether its driving around here, or going downstate and back, nearly everyone I see on the road still drives like a bat out of hell. You can never go fast enough for them, so no sense even trying. Even on the beat up country road going to my house, I see people everyday blowing past me at about 65-70 mph. Even through the neighborhood where there are sharp corners and kids playing. People squeal their tires around my corner everyday.

Only thing I have noticed is 18 wheelers are slowing down on the freeway downstate, they tend to run right around 65 like I do. Not around here though, they still drive like jerks. Even just this morning one passed me (I was going the speed limit) and ran the oncoming traffic off the road.
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Old 07-19-2008, 12:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
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here in wv, i use the mountains, there is 1500 ft elevation change from my house to work. plus i cross 3 moutains. i am usually foine 45-55 mph, but during oec going down hill i can hit 65-70 mph. i have noticed people slowing down alot.....but i only drove at night, well almost.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:41 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 07-19-2008, 05:24 AM   #19 (permalink)
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The funny thing is that people who drive so recklessly seem to care nothing for our nation's dependence on foreign oil, or the fact that buying oil from "over there" helps to support terrorism. They call us extremists for doing what we do. Extremists?

I say "VIVA LA RESISTANCE!!!"
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Old 07-19-2008, 05:50 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I drive down IH35 daily. Most people drive the speed limit or about 5 over. I tend to pass people even when im only going 65.
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