09-20-2009, 05:15 PM
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Yeah, most Americans have forgotten about fuel prices. Like my friends who have an 06 Civic 4-cylinderand an 08 Mustang GT V8. Guess which one gets driven more? The Mustang.
Fortunately my fiancee bought a fuel-sipper recently. It gets combined gas mileage equivalent to what my car does highway when I hypermile it.
Some of the automakers get it, as they are bringing slightly more efficient cars to market instead of trucks. Unfortunately we have stupid diesel emissions laws, or we'd see some cars with mind-blowing (to Americans) fuel economy.
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09-20-2009, 08:05 PM
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...beats walking...
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...uh, exactly which one?
1) FUEL economy?
2) FOOL economy?
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09-20-2009, 09:18 PM
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americans are like gold fish when it comes to rembering gas prices if it goes down for a week we forget all about the high prices and go back to driving our suv's
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09-20-2009, 09:37 PM
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WOW - that's a cool webpage.
Customize under the graph for USA average, 6-year, and "show crude prices"
Not that I wouldn't have expected it, but they mirror each other.
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09-21-2009, 01:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 99LeCouch
Yeah, most Americans have forgotten about fuel prices. Like my friends who have an 06 Civic 4-cylinderand an 08 Mustang GT V8. Guess which one gets driven more? The Mustang.
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Because the civic is boring DUH!
We just moved from a place where my GF and I each drove 10-20 miles a day every day to a town where pretty much everything we need is within walking distance or bike. I touch the car keys once every 2-3 days. When we do use the car its usually longer highway trips where FE is better. At this point I couldn't care how much gas costs. Maybe instead of FE we should focus more on building more livable communities. Even if my next car got 100mpg, I don't think I could ever go back to driving that much every day. I know a lot of people don't have any choice in the matter.
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09-21-2009, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by gascort
So... I was looking at my fuel log and noticed the fuel price trend... remember it dropping dramatically before the presidential election last year?
It's creeping back up.

Interesting. Reminds me of the way to kill a frog by boiling it - put it in cold water and increase gradually and he doesn't notice enough to jump out!
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It follows the same basic trend every year. Prices climb during the summer months (demand increases while school is out and people travel more) and then fall back down in the fall/winter months only to start the cycle again the next year at a little higher starting point.
The recession has disrupted this a little, but it will continue to climb over time. We'll see $6/gallon, the only question is when.
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09-21-2009, 05:03 PM
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World Almanac
Each year's World Almanac is a treasure trove of statistics going back to the time before dirt.Some of the values are adjusted to the Fed's constant dillution of the money supply but you can track things back very well.------ As far as memory serves me,gasoline prices remained constant throughout my childhood until October,1973,when fuel doubled overnight as a consequence of OPEC spreading their love.Prices would climb with each successive "energy crisis."---------- On the eve of G.H.W.Bushes Desert Storm,local regular unleaded was retailing here at $0.899/gallon.That went to $1.379/gallon overnight and we road a trans-decade price roller coaster until it settled back down to $1.379/gallon on the eve of G.Bush's Operation Iraqi Freedom,where it took off again.Between hurricanes,pipeline shutdowns,loss of Hugo Chavez' friendship,OPEC,Japan,China dumping U.S.Treasury bonds and dollars,and going to a mixed basket of currency for oil purchases,along with emerging demand for fuel from a rapidly growing middle-class in India and China,combined with peak-oil,as the global depression reverses,it looks like we can expect fuel prices as we've never imagined.----- Demand-pull inflation will rear it's exquisite head at the pump.------------- It's a good thing I finally located my frictionless bearings,anti-gravity spray,and air neutralizing car wax for the years to come.
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09-21-2009, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by aerohead
Each year's World Almanac is a treasure trove of statistics going back to the time before dirt.Some of the values are adjusted to the Fed's constant dillution of the money supply but you can track things back very well.------ As far as memory serves me,gasoline prices remained constant throughout my childhood until October,1973,when fuel doubled overnight as a consequence of OPEC spreading their love.Prices would climb with each successive "energy crisis."---------- On the eve of G.H.W.Bushes Desert Storm,local regular unleaded was retailing here at $0.899/gallon.That went to $1.379/gallon overnight and we road a trans-decade price roller coaster until it settled back down to $1.379/gallon on the eve of G.Bush's Operation Iraqi Freedom,where it took off again.Between hurricanes,pipeline shutdowns,loss of Hugo Chavez' friendship,OPEC,Japan,China dumping U.S.Treasury bonds and dollars,and going to a mixed basket of currency for oil purchases,along with emerging demand for fuel from a rapidly growing middle-class in India and China,combined with peak-oil,as the global depression reverses,it looks like we can expect fuel prices as we've never imagined.----- Demand-pull inflation will rear it's exquisite head at the pump.------------- It's a good thing I finally located my frictionless bearings,anti-gravity spray,and air neutralizing car wax for the years to come.
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09-22-2009, 02:00 AM
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This is one of the reasons I bought a used higher efficiency vehicle now- the prices on them will go up considerably when gas hits $4/gallon again!
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09-22-2009, 02:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pgfpro
I'm always watching the price of crude. Its slowing working its way back up.
Most people don't realize that we have gone past peak oil.
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Most people don't know what peak oil is.
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