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Old 06-04-2018, 12:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Does anyone know if the different trims correct for the different tire sizes, or is it small enough they just don't bother? If I were to correct for different tire sizes, what would need to be done?
I doubt it. The Civics don't. And the Sport and Base manual transmissions have the same gearing, so I bet the VSS, which is embedded in the trans, is also the same.

But if you are staying below 55mph most of the time, get lighter smaller, LRR tire/wheel combos so you can benefit from reduced rotational mass.

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I doubt it. The Civics don't. And the Sport and Base manual transmissions have the same gearing, so I bet the VSS, which is embedded in the trans, is also the same.

But if you are staying below 55mph most of the time, get lighter smaller, LRR tire/wheel combos so you can benefit from reduced rotational mass.
To me that screams for the 185/55r15's, then. Any opinions on the two longer treadwear options I found?

-Bridgestone Ecopia EP422 Plus, 640AA ~$113
-Firestone Champion Fuel Fighter, 600AA ~$95
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I've had other tires that didn't work well with the balance beads, so a real balance they might wear better. Looking at my fuel log, looks like I have 36,200 on them and the rain drop wear indicator is partially gone. Had a flat Friday night when I got home so put one back on, much quieter then the I-pikes I'm trying to wear out.
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To me that screams for the 185/55r15's, then. Any opinions on the two longer treadwear options I found?

-Bridgestone Ecopia EP422 Plus, 640AA ~$113
-Firestone Champion Fuel Fighter, 600AA ~$95
How about the Yokohamas on tire rack? Priced right between these two and much longer tread life rating than either the Bridgestone or the Firestones.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes

They are 3lbs heavier, each, than the others, but part of saving cash on the tire choice is in its ability to last, for sure.
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720 doesn't seem that much longer than 640, when compared to RE92s which have a treadwear rating of 240. I think I got 60,000 miles out of my last set? But you have a point. There's also the cost of mounting and balancing to consider, so a cheaper tire can lose a lot more money by more frequent replacements.
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720 doesn't seem that much longer than 640, when compared to RE92s which have a treadwear rating of 240. I think I got 60,000 miles out of my last set? But you have a point. There's also the cost of mounting and balancing to consider, so a cheaper tire can lose a lot more money by more frequent replacements.
Truth is that all three sets are good tires, and at 16 lbs each... the two you identified represent a total effect of 24 lbs to maybe 48 lbs less weight than the Yokohamas (when the 3 lbs/tire is considered as rotational mass).

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