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Old 07-03-2010, 05:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How about a Race???

More like a rally really............

I was thinking after watching the X prize footage etc, punding round a track is all well and good but what about a sense of real world adventure?

How about an ECO-cannonball - New York to San Fran for example or London to Porto. At the speed lmit. but on the least fuel/energy

A datum car would set a boogie time for a given sector, so that if someone particularly slo in order to save fuel that could be judged and get a MPG Penality.

Each Car would have to have a fixed camera(to monitor traffic) a GPS tracker (to monitor speed and distance) and a fuel cap lock / monitor

Manufacturers get the 'speed/exitement' element and 'normos' get to see that High Mpg's are restricted to apparently boring cars.....

whos up for it?


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Old 07-03-2010, 06:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds like a cool idea, but not the kind of thing you can just throw together. It would need a ligit organization/comity to plan it correctly and made the results valid.
Plus, I am not sure if the people who are really into saving fuel want to waste it just to prove how much they save, lol.
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Old 07-03-2010, 06:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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heck it'd only be 30gallons for an insight running 100mpg

so thats $105 at 'peak oil'
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Old 07-03-2010, 06:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hmmm, Wacky Races ?





Seriously, I think it's a good idea, but I wouldn't really call it a race, more like a ecomodding marathon of drawing attention to these wonderful practices to help cure our addiction to this foul contraption called oil.
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm game. Especially if we can get some impressive results and turn some heads while getting together and having a good time.

We could also include different fuel categories (Ethanol, EV, Hydrogen, Petrol) and compare results.

So, maybe by 2012?
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Old 07-03-2010, 09:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Will the winner be determined by % over EPA combined or..?
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Old 07-03-2010, 09:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd think for different fuels it should be based on gasoline energy equivalent, ie x amount of fuel source = energy in 1 gallon of gas. This is a commonly used basis and would level the playing field.
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Old 07-03-2010, 10:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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How about calling it an Eco-Rally?
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I'd think for different fuels it should be based on gasoline energy equivalent, ie x amount of fuel source = energy in 1 gallon of gas. This is a commonly used basis and would level the playing field.
Based on the contentious discussion toward post #64 of the Progressive Automotive X-Prize [Final] Round thread, MPGe is not as commonly agreed upon as you might think...
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Old 07-04-2010, 06:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I think there should be awards for each of the four classes.

- Best MPG inclass
- most improved over EPAc ( or suggested range for EVs?)

But I also think there should be a BEST MPG overall as a kind of 'Blue Ribbon'

Also I think that maybe there should be a Proto class and a Mod Class so that Manufacturers can be tempted to bring new tech and show-off what vehicles you can actually buy!

p.s. the idea I had for the euro versio goes past Le Mans..... just excites me alittle as an enduro boy!


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