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Old 05-28-2014, 12:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 05-28-2014, 01:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Yes. What people don't often realize is that Patents do NOT have to be either FUNCTIONAL or PHYSICALLY realizable...they ONLY have to be FULLY described (verboise), in legalease terms.
Very true. Pelmear's patent describes a system that, at its very best, would take more power than a normal alternator can deliver to barely rotate the engine. He never built it. Or if he built it, it never delivered useful power.

And the stuff in the description section about cylinder cutoff and running ignition timing at TDC is just noise. The only stuff that legally counts is what's in the claims.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:28 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The HP2g engine has been EPA TESTED and Exceeds 2016 EPA emissions standards by 2/3 LESS.






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Very true. Pelmear's patent describes a system that, at its very best, would take more power than a normal alternator can deliver to barely rotate the engine. He never built it. Or if he built it, it never delivered useful power.

And the stuff in the description section about cylinder cutoff and running ignition timing at TDC is just noise. The only stuff that legally counts is what's in the claims.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:36 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Would this be the May 2009 "EPA" test- likely an ordinary sniffer test done by the local yocals?

Would you look at that- Doug has a Topaz diesel! Doug- why does your Topaz weigh 1,000 lbs more than all the others? You are supposed to get out of the car when it's weighed.
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:32 PM   #26 (permalink)
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So please explain how your engine works. Non-patent speak would help...
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
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So please explain how your engine works. Non-patent speak would help...
Cue the obfuscating! He will not elaborate in clear language, if memory serves. What will follow will be hemming, hawing, claiming intellectual property and keeping things close to the vest so Big Bad Corporations don't try to either buy him out, block him or have him killed down some dark alley and buried under one of the sidelines at Giants Stadium.

They'll rebuild Giants Stadium just to keep his miracle ultra futuristic confabulation hushed up, that's how important this is.

Doug, I'll gladly eat my words - not fooling, I will print them out, take a picture of myself eating the paper and post that picture here if you can provide better documentation than this stuff we've seen. "EPA testing" would mean giving the car to the actual EPA, not having its emissions checked at an inspection garage.

It doesn't have to be the EPA. If you wanted to get it thoroughly examined by the folks at Consumer Reports that would be fine, I tend to view their assessments as highly reliable.

I used to do that annual emissions inspection. I was 17, got minimum wage, and the boss said if the customer had $50, his car passed. So I would prefer to see a little - no, I'd rather see a lot more provenance before I accept your claims as stated. You've generated some bad karma here in the past and will have to reach a bit higher to overcome that before I can give you the credence you feel you've earned.
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The HP2g engine has been EPA TESTED and Exceeds 2016 EPA emissions standards by 2/3 LESS.
If true, then post a copy of the report.

You might keep in mind that this site has people who have demonstrated better than 30MPG from a stock full size pickup truck driven on public roads. If you really had an engine that worked, and that engine was in a real car, there are several people on this site who would be more than happy to test drive it and publish the results. You can weld the hood shut if you want.

On the other hand, if you want to convince us that you are still a windbag, you can obfuscate and change the subject.
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:39 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Demonstration of the HP2g Engine in the Revenge Verde Super Car for the North American International Auto Show (NAIAS)

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Demonstration of the HP2g Engine in the Revenge Verde Super Car for the North American International Auto Show (NAIAS)

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Sounds cool. Is your engine in a working vehicle? If so, why don't you take a video of that?

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