No offense, but this guy sounds like a tool. 95 is near me and I've also driven on it in maryland, and if there isn't heavy traffic, driving 50 seems to me like asking to get hit. Also, completely disregarding what the police say about safety in order to get a few MPG is not the smartest thing, nor does it make sensible ecodrivers like us look good when he flaunts the law all over the news.
As I always say, safety first, courtesy second, fuel economy third.
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Gas prices are soaring and many drivers are looking to save any way they can.
One Maryland motorist is trying to squeeze every bit of milage he can from his hybrid even by changing his driving habits.
But it was exactly that effort that got him pulled over by police on I-95 recently.
It's no secret Glenn Conrad is pumped over the mileage his Honda hybrid gets around town.
"I strive for 70, 70 miles per gallon and if I get 80 miles a gallon or more, I feel really nice about that," said Glenn.
Glenn admits he's what's known as a hypermiler, someone who stretches their car's miles per gallon by changing driving habits.
On the night of June 12th, Glenn was hypermiling on I-95.
"I was just doing what I do. On the down hills the thing would roll up to 65 miles an hour and on the uphill I would punch the gas until it reached 55 miles-an-hour or 50 puttering down the road," Glenn explained.
So imagine his surprise when a Maryland State Trooper pulled him over on his way to BWI airport.
"He asked, Mr. Conrad why are you driving 50 miles-an-hour back there on I-95? I said, I'm saving gas. He said saving gas? I said yea and looked at my readout and said I'm getting 69 miles to the gallon right now," said Glenn.
Instead of mileage the trooper was concerned with motorist safety and issued Glenn a warning for going 50 miles-an-hour, 15 miles-an-hour under the posted speed limit.
"Speed limits aren't just put there just because the state decides what they want. It's because of fuel conservation and the safety of the other motorists and the motorists around you on the highways," said Sgt. Chris Davala of the Maryland State Police.
AAA officials agree and say going too slow is a hazard.
"The optimum speed for saving gas is probably 55 or a little above that right now. The thought that you are saving gas by going 45 or 50 on a high speed road isn't accurate. It's very very very dangerous," said Lon Anderson of AAA MidAtlantic.
As for Glenn Conrad, he says he won't go 50 on the interstate again.
"Oh no. Now I drive 51 on I-95 anyways," said Glenn.
What is the posted speed limit there? On my drive home half is a 65 mph zone. I'll coast down to 50 if there is nobody behind me. I don't see anything wrong with that. There is no minimum speed limit.
Also, the idea that speed limits are there to conserve fuel is absolute bull.
The minimum legal speed on most interstates is 40 mph. So he not really breaking the law. I drive 10 under the max all the time so I guess I'm a tool also. Now if this is a 2 lane highway I guess that's different.
The law regarding minimum speeds is a bit tricky in some states. I don't think maryland has one posted (nj doesn't either), but at least in NJ it is at the discretion of the po po to decide if speed (whether high or low) is dangerous. On a road where people regularly travel 75 I wouldn't put myself in a situation with a speed differential of 25 mph when the driver behind me has no way of knowing that differential until he/she runs up behind me.
I don't think he was nuts for driving 50, per se, but disregarding the police and trying to play coy about the reasons a lot of drivers hate us is only going to spread animosity.
Well Glenn is ok in my book. He has a right to use the freeway and drive at or above the minimum speed limit, especially if it was at night and presumably not crowded, and assuming he was in the slow lane. If someone is speeding and causes a crash, well, hopefully they heard it on the news that theres gonna be some slowpokes out there and they better pay attention, so they don't cause a crash.
Nobody should pander to speeders in the name of safety ?!?
He was kind of a smarty pants. It depends on traffic and the situation but I guess will just agree to disagree not knowing the area but where do you draw the line. Traffic here regularly travel 80-85 mph. I'm not going to drive 75 just to be in the flow. Almost all highways have a slow lane and a passing lane.The people traveling at these speeds are going to be mad if they have slow down even if it's 70. I don't think there are a lot of accidents because people come up on a 20 mph overtake but I'm sure some one can find some links. I guess it's a good thing I don't drive much
My only point is this: If you're driving enough out of the norm to cause yourself to get pulled over, I think you're doing something wrong.
Certainly, cops aren't infallible in their judgment, but their the ones that have to walk around crash scenes all the time, so I do trust them to make those sorts of decisions.
You must be joking! Most min. limits here are 45mph on the highway. I hope he turned the ticket over in front of the cop an signed the part to contest!
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I can see the safety hazard of going 50mph in a 65mph zone if there are people whizzing past going 70+ durring rush hour. as ive started hypermiling ive thought to my self if driving to slow is a reasonable reason to get pulled over. of course i just find myself accellerating as slow as i can, but i still try to go around the speed limit. if there wasn't anyone around or no heavy traffic i would be aggrivated myself to get pulled over.
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Ok so after consulting my lawyer (ie looking at SVOBoy's link) if there was no posted min. limit they could give him a ticker for going 5mi under the min non-posted limit. I guess if were going to a hypermiling fest we better read up on all the min-max speed limit laws for each state were going to be going through. United Phhhhhhhhhhh.
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I guess its difficult for you guys in the US as you don't have the lane specific requirements we have here in the UK. Our first lane (inside lane) is the main lane, and the other two (or sometimes more) lanes are for overtaking. So I can quite safely sit in the inside lane at 55 as cars will pass me in the middle lane, and faster cars pass them in the outside lane. So I can be at 55 while others are 90+
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Ok so after consulting my lawyer (ie looking at SVOBoy's link) if there was no posted min. limit they could give him a ticker for going 5mi under the min non-posted limit. I guess if were going to a hypermiling fest we better read up on all the min-max speed limit laws for each state were going to be going through. United Phhhhhhhhhhh.
Probably a good idea. Perhaps my reaction is a little strong, but I think I should contextualize.
There's lots of negative press, and negativity surrounding hypermiling right now. Even when people get on TV and do very moderate stuff I've talked to people (in real life) who tell me they think it's ridiculous or unlawful or dangerous. When I was doing a radio interview this morning I was asked about the "Craziest" thing hypermilers do, because a lot of the press has turned into a zoo-like "look at this nutjob" type thing, and that's really difficult to counteract.
Probably a good idea. Perhaps my reaction is a little strong, but I think I should contextualize.
There's lots of negative press, and negativity surrounding hypermiling right now. Even when people get on TV and do very moderate stuff I've talked to people (in real life) who tell me they think it's ridiculous or unlawful or dangerous. When I was doing a radio interview this morning I was asked about the "Craziest" thing hypermilers do, because a lot of the press has turned into a zoo-like "look at this nutjob" type thing, and that's really difficult to counteract.
Why don't you start a thread on that interview and the zoo like atmosphere. It would be interesting. That's why I'm a eco-driver and not a hypermiler.
I know but in my pre-hypermiling days (I've only been doing this since gas hit $3.50) I would go by a cop on side of the highway doing 80mph ALL THE TIME. I can't Count the # of times I've done this. Times were I was going with the flow of traffic and times were I was the only car in the fast lane. Not once NOT ONCE was I EVER pulled over for doing 80mph. I've been pulled over for going above 80 (88, 84, and 85) but the cops don't even look at you if your going 75-80. I't doesn't seem fair. If you want to go fast pay attention and GO AROUND ME!!!!!!!!!!
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It's definitely not far, but as long as the law includes words like "normal" and 75-80 is normal, the one going 50 is going to be punished, . I personally advocate a move back to a national 55 mph limit.
You know what I am a Firefighter in NC and when we have to block lanes on the highway sometimes I40 mostly. The Cops hate this and try to get us to move our trucks even though this is our "scene". We have a bubble we try to protect. Not only for the victims but for us and the Cops..."Safety zone" around crashe is what it is called check out this video This is a video of this. This Cop tells the Engineer or the driver that he has got to move his truck. The Captain or the guy in the T-shirt and pants. He is in charge of this crew. He tells the Eng. Not to move the truck. So the Cpt and the Officer agrue and the Cops arrest the Cpt. Let it be known the Cop was fined and I think given some days off. Sorry but some Cops think they are gods sometimes. Understand my Dad was a Cop, my Cousin, and I have a few friends who are still Cops. Now firefighters are cocky too at times.
If you are a cop or have love ones who are I am not sorry for my comments but let it be known I still respect Cops for what they do. This is just a bad Cop of the few out there. State Troopers are sometimes wrost. I think this is why he was so hard on him it was a State Trooper.
In my job I see a lot of crashes 99% of them are do to HIGHER THAN NORMAL SPEED. 50 in a 65 is not stupid. Now going 50 in a zone that is marked 65 where people drive 85 should not be the driver fault who is going 50. If he was blocking lanes of traffic or if it was on a 2 lane Highway..one going one direction and the other going the opposite then yeah he should go atleast 60-65 in my oppion.
Also no one should argue with the cop or be a smartie. This will get you know where and in some states can get you arrested, or more fines. Argue in court or have your lawyer argue even better for you.
Ahhh I feel better now. =)
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(ie looking at SVOBoy's link) if there was no posted min. limit they could give him a ticker for going 5mi under the min non-posted limit. I guess if were going to a hypermiling fest we better read up on all the min-max speed limit laws for each state were going to be going through. United Phhhhhhhhhhh.
. I personally advocate a move back to a national 55 mph limit.
