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 07-13-2017, 02:05 PM #71 (permalink) 92 Civic VX since 2002     Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Bellevue, NE USA Posts: 179 Green Bean - '92 Honda Civic VX 90 day: 65.2 mpg (US) Wife's Prius - '08 Toyota Prius Base 315K miles Thanks: 8 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts I would recommend calculating your fuel economy by how many miles you have driven on a tank and divide it by how many gallons you can squeeze into the tank. I fill my car in the same stall at the same filling station so I know it is getting filled the same exact each time. If your car is angled on a hill it can vary how much fuel you can get into it and thus why you should use the same stall each time. Then you will know how accurate your measuring device is. Mine happens to be over 99% accurate, so your engine off coasting won't matter because the tank doesn't lie if filled the same each time.
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 Originally Posted by Magician I would recommend calculating your fuel economy by how many miles you have driven on a tank and divide it by how many gallons you can squeeze into the tank. I fill my car in the same stall at the same filling station so I know it is getting filled the same exact each time. If your car is angled on a hill it can vary how much fuel you can get into it and thus why you should use the same stall each time. Then you will know how accurate your measuring device is. Mine happens to be over 99% accurate, so your engine off coasting won't matter because the tank doesn't lie if filled the same each time.
Ever deal with an artificial limiter on a gas tank? I have over 2 gallons of wasted space in my tank if I don't top off by trickle filling for 10 minutes. Not fun when you have places to be and **** to do.
Anyways what I was saying is the trip computer doesn't add any distance when EOC. I need to use odometer and subtract to figure out how many miles I have actually driven. I do typically fill up at same pump everytime. So I can try to trickle in my usual extra gallon.

 07-14-2017, 06:48 PM #73 (permalink) Focused on MPG     Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Uphill from the river! Posts: 323 White Lightning - '05 FORD FOCUS SE ZX4 Team Ford 90 day: 31.88 mpg (US) Wife's Speedy - '06 Mercury Mariner Premier V6 90 day: 21.61 mpg (US) Thanks: 69 Thanked 70 Times in 58 Posts That is odd, the few times I EOC at less than 10mph down a hill for testing purposes, the trip odometer still calculated on the car, and the obd gauges went up also....hmmm __________________ Staying Focus'd on MPG
 07-16-2017, 03:17 AM #74 (permalink) EcoModding Lurker     Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 17 ecoDrudge - '07 Ford Fusion EU 1.6 TDCi Team FordDiesel 90 day: 69.53 mpg (US) Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts It might depend on the car. When starting to coast in EOC I switch off the engine by key and 2 seconds later start ignition again, because breaking and blinking light should work. In these two seconds my odo doesn't count. I compared odo, ScanGauge and GPS. Now I know that my ScanGauge counts all while my odo is about 5% less. For counting my MPG I use what ScanGauge tells me always at fill-ups. __________________
 08-17-2017, 11:39 AM #75 (permalink) Master Novice     Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SE USA - East Tennessee Posts: 2,117 Josie - '87 Toyota Pickup 90 day: 29.48 mpg (US) Tiptoe - '03 Honda Civic Hybrid Team Honda 90 day: 48.9 mpg (US) Felicia - '09 Toyota Prius Base 90 day: 47.88 mpg (US) Thanks: 354 Thanked 508 Times in 371 Posts When you EOC, are you coasting with the ignition OFF but the key still unlocked? Obviously unlocked, or you'd be a news item. Sorry, facepalm. But my car with the ignition OFF, the speedo and odometer (both parts, trip and main) don't work. So I turn off just long enough to shut the engine down, then key back ON so the odo registers. I've never seen an odometer that split how the trip and the main worked, but I have never owned a Chevy either so my exposure is limited. __________________ Take it easy
 08-17-2017, 04:42 PM #76 (permalink) EcoModding Lurker     Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 17 ecoDrudge - '07 Ford Fusion EU 1.6 TDCi Team FordDiesel 90 day: 69.53 mpg (US) Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Hi elhigh, as breaking light only works with ignition ON I do the same as you. After that the machine stopped I switch on ignition again and am coasting with ignition ON. I'm using two odos, the built in and my ScanGauge is counting too. While the built in odo stops counting while ignition is off my ScanGauge goes on showing speed and counting the miles. __________________
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 Originally Posted by JockoT That may work in the US but in the UK one defective tyre negates your insurance, and no insurance means your car is impounded. Each defective tyre gets you 3 penalty points. And penalty points stay on your record for from 4 to 11 years. 12 penalty points on your licence means you are banned from driving. Driving while banned can mean jail time. Much cheaper here just to replace your tyres when they wear out!
So many people would get arrested here in the U.S. for that. Sounds like a REASONABLE idea though, lots of people just do not give a f**k about their cars, and watching their driving styles: Their lives or the lives of the people around them. Having taken a family vacation to Germany and other neighboring countries recently, it was amazing how much better their drivers are. It was also a pleasant surprise to see VERY few police, just speed cameras. I would much prefer that system to ours.

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 Originally Posted by 14'ecocruze If I didn't have my pop can turbo to give my car a reasonable amount of to question at above eco rmps I would do EOC but EOnC is the option as of now. Don't want to fry a turbo. I would expect to be able to break into mid to upper 60s with EOC.
I wouldn't be worried about turbo heat with EOC'ing, but I WOULD be worried about lubrication. If the engine stops, the oil flow is probably stopped too. I think some new cars continue circulating oil through the turbo after shutdown, but don't count on it.

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 Originally Posted by 14'ecocruze Last night had 16 miles at 43 mpg due to standing water on the roads during nasty small storm. Started when I hit the highway and ended when I got off. Mother nature isnt in my favor that was 28 miles at under 50.
Hey, at least you can break 40 mpg when it rains. Makes my avatar kind of ironic.

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 Originally Posted by 14'ecocruze Ever deal with an artificial limiter on a gas tank? I have over 2 gallons of wasted space in my tank if I don't top off by trickle filling for 10 minutes. Not fun when you have places to be and **** to do. Anyways what I was saying is the trip computer doesn't add any distance when EOC. I need to use odometer and subtract to figure out how many miles I have actually driven. I do typically fill up at same pump everytime. So I can try to trickle in my usual extra gallon.
Can't you remove the limiter? Just so stupid they decided to put that thing in there. The manual transmission version has more range than the automatic? OH NO, we can't let that happen. The ONLY reason I could see that they did that would be to make sure people who do low mileage don't have the same old gas in their tanks for too long.
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 09-05-2017, 06:57 PM #78 (permalink) CruzeMTgrind   Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 127 BlueBawls - '14 Chevrolet Cruze Eco 90 day: 47.06 mpg (US) Eddie - '02 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer 90 day: 25.53 mpg (US) Thanks: 52 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts My Cruze may just fall out of the 50+ with this next tank 340 miles of ac use on a trip and got wind in my face both ways. 45 mpg...average speed before hitting a section of road work was 65 mph. Can't complain much for a car rated 42 mpg highway though and not even on the LRR tires.
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 Originally Posted by 14'ecocruze My Cruze may just fall out of the 50+ with this next tank 340 miles of ac use on a trip and got wind in my face both ways. 45 mpg...average speed before hitting a section of road work was 65 mph. Can't complain much for a car rated 42 mpg highway though and not even on the LRR tires.
Want to know something funny? I just drove back home in the pouring rain and got 41.1 mpg, oh yea, and the scangauge was pessimistic! You may be falling out of 50 mpg tanks, but I just broke my first tank mpg goal of 40 mpg! I got 40.7 mpg.
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 Originally Posted by Frank Lee ~the Cat and I watched the Supper Bowls today... tomorrow we will watch the Super Bowels...

 09-06-2017, 03:33 AM #80 (permalink) CruzeMTgrind   Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 127 BlueBawls - '14 Chevrolet Cruze Eco 90 day: 47.06 mpg (US) Eddie - '02 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer 90 day: 25.53 mpg (US) Thanks: 52 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Congrats on the 40. Next stop 50 for you? I have always been intrigued by the fact nobody gets great mpg with v6s but then I spotted your posts a while back. Motivated me to push for 30 in the Exploder. Aero brick and I can almost make it. Seems if a vehicle that size can get 30 a mid size sedan should be getting 40 with proper gear ratios and an ecominded driver. Winter is almost here so 50 will become difficult for the Cruze anyways. Probably be put in the garage for the most part.