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Old 03-03-2010, 12:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I can't express how good it is...

...to know I'm not the only one who is trying to optimize their vehicle with respect to efficiency.

I recently finished my engineering degree, and I have seen what is possible (With commercial projects such as Loremo and Aptera, for example). I seem to be surrounded by people who are obsessed with performance and status symbols...meeting a group of people like yourselves is a breath of fresh air.

I currently drive a pickup, and through good driving habits alone I get twice the gas millage I should, but my current goal is to obtain an old Type-1 VW beetle, modify it with modern technology such as EFI and electronic ignition, and make as many other modifications as I can to increase efficiency.

In the mean time, I hope to learn as much as possible from a site like this. I see a lot of useful knowledge floating around here.


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Old 03-03-2010, 12:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Cool. Welcome to EM. I get my improvements over EPA estimates via modified driving habits, too. $0 dollar investment, ~$1200 in fuel savings.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Welcome to the site. Combinations of driving techniques and modifications can lead to so much better efficiency than we have today. Just the other day me and another member were talking about how the car manufacturers seem to think their compacts getting 35 mpg is so much to brag about. Its just the tip if the iceberg!
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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...what does the " 97 " in you handle mean--1897 or 1997 (ha,ha)?

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Old 03-03-2010, 12:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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my current goal is to obtain an old Type-1 VW beetle, modify it with modern technology such as EFI and electronic ignition, and make as many other modifications as I can to increase efficiency.
Just last night as I bicycled past an older small car I though that doing something like you describe (an efficiency oriented restoration/modification of a small, light classic) would be a fun project.

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Old 03-03-2010, 12:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I currently drive a pickup, and through good driving habits alone I get twice the gas millage I should, but my current goal is to obtain an old Type-1 VW beetle, modify it with modern technology such as EFI and electronic ignition, and make as many other modifications as I can to increase efficiency.

In the mean time, I hope to learn as much as possible from a site like this. I see a lot of useful knowledge floating around here.
I'd LOVE to see someone do this. Would you use a stock VW engine or replace it with a more modern one? Perhaps a defanged Porsche engine?

It seems like the VW bug chassis is such a natural for Ecomodding. You may be able to borrow ideas and/or bodies from the Beetle's kit-car heritage. If I were rich, I'd use a Perry 550 Spyder kit as the body for a conversion :

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Old 03-03-2010, 01:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'll ignore the roars of laughter, but I'd like to get a Ford Pinto (my first new car was a '76 Pinto Stallion) and convert it to a diesel in the same vein as MAX (Mothers Automotive X-prize) from Kinetic Vehicles. Seems like it could be a cheap, yet cool (to me anyway) alternative to a hybrid.
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I like your idea stingy!

As far as flat air-cooled VWs; I love 'em but they have some inherent disadvantages for max fe, the biggie being the relatively loose and constantly changing piston-to-cylinder tolerances vs the more stable, tight environment of water pumpers. Were I to do a max effort VW I think I'd go for a water cooled engine swap of some sort.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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@Old Tele man: lol. The 97 actually comes from the old song, “Wreck of Ol’ 97.” Obviously, the railroad has left it’s mark on me, as well.

@MetroMPG: Thanks for the link! Unfortunately, the Craig’s List entry has expired, but I’ll keep an eye out for such a kit.

@cfg83: I was planning on keeping the stock engine, since cost is a factor. It’s pretty efficient compared to the lot of them on the market

@Frank Lee: Yeah. Air cooling has its disadvantages. That may change eventually; who knows.

Thank you all for the welcome. I’m impressed by your sense of community, as well.


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