Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Instrumentation
Register Now
 Register Now


Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-07-2009, 10:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I want to build a MPGuino, where do I start?

I've read some of the stuff I could find on the matter. I was looking for the most current information.

What is the difference between the Adrunio and the IDunio? Can the same code be used?

Where can I find the latest version?

Any information would help to start at the right spot. I understand how the unit gets made and how it is connected to the vehicle. I've never messed with the code so I will be new to that. I understand the you download it and then load it into the unit. Then a few of the parameters needs to be tweeked after verifying with math, compared to what the car really did.

Thanks,

Dave


(Support Ecomodder.com & get rid of these annoying ads!)      
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 10:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
Dartmouth 2010
 
SVOboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hanover, NH
Posts: 5,925

Vegan Powa! - '91 CRX DX
Team Honda
90 day: 66.52 mpg (US)
Thanks: 44
Thanked 35 Times in 29 Posts
Send a message via AIM to SVOboy Send a message via MSN to SVOboy Send a message via Yahoo to SVOboy Send a message via Skype™ to SVOboy
Check the mpguino subforum and the page on ecomodder.com/wiki. All the info should be there. Dave (dcb) is also selling preassembled units.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 09:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Daox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 3,070

Daox's Paseo - '97 Paseo
Team Toyota
90 day: 67.16 mpg (US)

Daox's Prius - '04 Prius
90 day: 52.66 mpg (US)
Thanks: 9
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
I'd go for (and did go for) the preassembled unit personally. Its only $15 more and you only need to make an enclosure.

Official mpguino preassembled now available
__________________
EcoRenovator.org - Efficient living and green home improvement
Prius Build Thread
Paseo Build Thread
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 11:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
doviatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 162

Grey Goose - '89 Metro LSI 4 door hatch back
Team Metro
90 day: 61.7 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I ordered a kit for my self last week from Fundamental Logic (isn't this where dcb sells them?). They are in a back order status though. Some patience is required at this point. They probably need to get enough orders to justify a restock purchase. I don't know if this backorder includes pre-assembled units.
It feels as if I'm waiting for Christmas. eger excitement!
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 11:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
dcb
Don't Panic
 
dcb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 3rd rock
Posts: 2,674

pimp mobile - '81 gs 250 t
90 day: 96.29 mpg (US)

schnitzel - '01 Golf TDI
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by doviatt View Post
I ordered a kit for my self last week from Fundamental Logic (isn't this where dcb sells them?).
Nope that is Spiffed (kevin), he sells kits. I make preassembled units available from here:
http://opengauge.org/mpguino
__________________
"I kicked a giant mouse in the butt! Do I have to draw you a diagram?"
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 11:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
doviatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 162

Grey Goose - '89 Metro LSI 4 door hatch back
Team Metro
90 day: 61.7 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Dang!! I should have done more research.
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 11:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Harvest, Alabama
Posts: 239

Suzi - '94 Swift GA
Team Metro
90 day: 48.46 mpg (US)

Prius II - '05 Prius Package 6
90 day: 49.85 mpg (US)
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Word of advice, the iDuino based one is jumpy (the VSS for some reason just doesn't stay steady). I have no experience with the kits that dcb or Spiffed sell. I have heard that the "from scratch" ones work well and are "rock solid", but I would expect that the kits would be also.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2009, 11:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
dcb
Don't Panic
 
dcb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 3rd rock
Posts: 2,674

pimp mobile - '81 gs 250 t
90 day: 96.29 mpg (US)

schnitzel - '01 Golf TDI
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts
I don't think kevin (spiffed) is shipping with the latest software. I added a vss fix since .73 or whatever he is using.
__________________
"I kicked a giant mouse in the butt! Do I have to draw you a diagram?"
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2009, 12:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I wanted the experience of building it myself. I know I could handle that part, I've made stuff like that before. I realize the price is so close if I bought a prebuilt unit I would be saving money. I just want to make sure I get the right parts and that I can get the latest version of the software most people are running. I've opened the page with the software on it and it looks like a lot of garble. But I don't need to fully understand how to write it, just to tweek the values associated with tuning it, right?
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2009, 10:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
McTimson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Binghamton, NY
Posts: 258

The Turkel - '93 Tercel
Team Toyota
90 day: 45.42 mpg (US)
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Correct, you don't need to know how the code works, all you need to know is how to calibrate the values for your car, and it's very easy to do that.

I went with the iDuino homemade version first, but it ended up being a really sloppy soldering job, and just turned into a big mess. I then bought the spiffie.org kit, and everything came together really nicely. If you really want to build it yourself, then I would recommend the kit - getting all the parts on your own can result in a unit that's hard to debug if it doesn't work right, because you might not be using the exact same parts that everyone else has. If it's backordered, email them, they usually know about when they will be coming back.

Of course the preassembled version really makes the most sense right now, you don't have to worry about installing diodes backwards, or anything like that.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MPGuino release one workspace dcb OpenGauge / MPGuino FE computer 894 10-22-2009 10:07 PM
start a "Fire" fly EV project Trevs Introductions 12 03-10-2009 06:13 PM
Found a great spot for my MPGuino McTimson OpenGauge / MPGuino FE computer 13 11-22-2008 02:16 PM
newbie wanting to build mpguino fredd7924 OpenGauge / MPGuino FE computer 2 08-13-2008 04:41 PM
Car Won't Start While Moving in Neutral Any Ideas? Axaday EcoModding Central 3 06-30-2008 12:26 AM




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com