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Old 02-14-2009, 03:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Index of Phil Knox Aerodynamics Seminars & Mod-data lists

Over a periods of months, Phil Knox (aerohead) posted:
  • A series of brief Aerodynamics/Aero-mod Seminars
  • A series of Lists of Cd change for various mods.
Unfortunately, the thread titles weren't a 100% consistent, so it's not 100% convenient to track them all down.
Here are links to the ones I've found. (If you have links to other's please let me know.)

Aerodynamics Seminars:
  1. Aerodynamics Seminar #1 - by Phil Knox
  2. Aerodynamics Seminar #2 - by Phil Knox
  3. Aerodynamics Seminar #3 - by Phil Knox
  4. Aerodynamics Seminar # 4 - by Phil Knox
  5. Aerodynamics Seminar # 5 - by Phil Knox
  6. Aerodynamics Seminar # 6 - by Phil Knox

Mod-data Lists: The Relative Value of Various Aero-Mods
  1. Papers Quantifying "the difference between drag contributions for all body elements."
    Not a thread
    post #15 in the list-aero-mods-you-can-do-your-vehicle STICKY
  2. Data for Nose Jobs and Hood/Cowl"]Mods-data: Nose Jobs and Hood/Cowl
    Not a thread
    posts #23 & #24 in the list-aero-mods-you-can-do-your-vehicle STICKY
  3. Mods-data: Surface Drag
  4. mods-data-% change or Cd change ( installment#4-Rooflines( quotes)) )
  5. mods-data-% change or Cd change( installment#5-roofline data)
  6. aero mods-data-% change or Cd change ( installment #6-underside/bellypans )
  7. aero mods-data-% change or Cd change ( installment # 7-Wheels/Tires/Wheelcovers/etc.
  8. aero-mods ( installment#8-INDUCED-DRAG(spoilers/lips/flaps)
  9. aero-mods,installment#9(internal drag)
  10. [ aero-mods Installment#10-( Interference-Drag) ]
  11. aero-mods,installment#11(aftbody streamlining/boat-tails)Part-1 Introduction

Large Truck Aerodynamics:
  1. CLASS-8 Truck Streamlining / Fuel Economy ( Part- 0) Brief Timeline
  2. CLASS-8 Truck Streamlining / Fuel Economy ( Part-1 ) Aero Specifics

Other Aerodynamics:


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Old 02-14-2009, 03:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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TestDrive - THANKS for putting this together. Great idea.

I'm going to add your index to each of the seminars to make them easier to navigate through as a package.
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I'm going to add your index to each of the seminars tp make them easier to navigate through as a package. Right now.
Cool.
Much better than having the list in yet another thread.

Would be cooler still, if there were a tool to automate it.
Eg. Suppose that a week from now Phil decides to add yet another seminar to the series. Wouldn't it be cool if there were an "Add a Chapter" button that would start a new thread and update the list in all of the threads.

Of course it would most like be a nightmare to implement (if not just plain impossible), so not really a request. Just chasing rainbows. Sigh.
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The forum isn't really designed to work like that, unfortunately...

But a workaround would be if Phil came back to THIS thread to remind us/me to update the index if he posts something new that should be in it.
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Changed my mind: in the event the index gets updated/expanded, it's better to link from the individual articles back here. Otherwise, I need to update every article's index each time a change is made. More work = bad.

So I've added a prominent up-top link to this index in each installment.
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Otherwise, I need to update every article's index each time a change is made. More work = bad.

So I'm added a prominent up-top link to this index in each installment.
Easier to maintain - and very nearly as convinent.

Seems I've conflated the seminars with his mod-data lists.
Will edit the OP so there are two lists.
Anyway to edit this thread's title???

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Looking better and better. I've updated the thread title and made it a sticky. Look good?

And because I'm the type of person who takes a ridiculously long time to pack stuff in newspaper (because I find myself reading instead of packing), I also just re-read (and cleaned up formatting in some of) Phil's posts.

What a wealth of data - thanks, Phil! I knew it was good stuff as I was seeing the bits and pieces as they were posted, but collectively it's a fantastic resource and the index makes it way more accessible. Nice, nice, nice.
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What a wealth of data - thanks, Phil! I knew it was good stuff as I was seeing the bits and pieces as they were posted, but collectively it's a fantastic resource
Sure wish I could track down the first two mod-data threads. Tried every way I could think of, but nothing gets me there.

If you read this Phil, do you have any idea when you posted those? Or the thread title or anything?

In any case thanks again for all of the work you put into those posts. They are a great resource.
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Sure wish I could track down the first two mod-data threads. Tried every way I could think of, but nothing gets me there.

If you read this Phil, do you have any idea when you posted those? Or the thread title or anything?

In any case thanks again for all of the work you put into those posts. They are a great resource.
I'll root around and see if I can find 'em.I appreciate everyone watching my back! As new members come on board,it's hard to acquaint them with things buried deep in past pages.What you all are doing will really help get everyone on the same page sooner.Super-big thumbs-up!
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I think I found them

I went into the second sticky and I think it's page 2,Randy the hack asked for a breakdown on aero mods.The first two aero- mod installments follow his request but I didn't number them.One is for "hood/cowl",let me chck on the first,I've already forgot.Don't get old! Let me check it again.


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