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Old 06-28-2009, 03:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Interesting Gauge

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A lot of the supercharged guys on the Bonneville forum I go to use this gauge. I noticed it has an instant and average MPG function as well. It is a bit pricey but it seems to offer a more functions than the "ScanGauge" everyone is using.

They have this "sample list" posted on their site. I have highlighted a few things of possible interst:

RPM
MPH
Intake Air Temperature (post Intercooler)
Ambient Air Temperature (pre Intercooler)
Engine Coolant Temperature
Exhaust Gas Temperature (PCM Calculated)
Transmission Temp. (auto trans)
Manifold Pressure (vacuum/boost) displayed in PSI
Fuel Temperature
Battery Voltage
Battery Temp
Injector Pulse Width in msec.
Injector Duty Cycle (%)
Air Flow Rate into engine
Long Term Fuel Trim
Short Term Fuel Trim
O2 Sensor Voltage
Barometric Pressure
Ignition Advance
Base Spark
PCM Spark Adjust
Fuel Status (open/closed loop)
Wastegate Solenoid Duty Cycle (%)
Knock Retard
Knock Sensor Raw Voltage
Throttle Position Percentage
Throttle Position Sensor Raw Volts
Calculated Net Horsepower
Engine Load
Transmission Slip
Current Transmission Gear
Torque Delivered to Transmission
Torque Converter lockup status
Brake pressure
Brake Booster Travel
Steering Angle
Non-driven Wheel Speed
Lateral G's
Yaw
Fuel economy (instantaneous and average)
P-ratio - pressure ratio MAP/Barometer
2 user configurable analog inputs**
** 0-5v inputs can be configured to read the outputs from MAP sensors, Air/Fuel ratio kits, pressure or temperature sensors, etc. Raw voltage can be displayed or a conversion can be entered to read proper units.

Users will find that ability to log RPM vs other parameters at high speed such as ignition advance, boost, or knock retard invaluable with regards to tuning.


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Old 06-28-2009, 05:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks like a more expensive SGII... less nerdy too.
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks cool. Does not *appear* to be as generalized as the SG :



It appears to be CAN-only.

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It works on the brands listed in the USA too. Yeah I noticed the more limited model range than the SGII. I wonder if it is due to the specialized content it has. I wonder if they think the return on investment would not be worth it for impot models.
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It works on the brands listed in the USA too. Yeah I noticed the more limited model range than the SGII. I wonder if it is due to the specialized content it has. I wonder if they think the return on investment would not be worth it for impot models.
I'll bet they're banking their algorithms and accuracy on the CAN protocol. Things like the Injector Pulse Width and Injector Duty Cycle are not available on standard OBDII, so I am assuming they are CAN-specific.

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http://www.aeroforcetech.com/files/A...f_Feb_2008.pdf They have it broken down by manufacturer and CAN or non-CAN. I looked in their forums and online manuals as well and US is no issue. I am not to schooled in this stuff so I cant say what US OBDII is is isnt capable of but according to them its a go. Heck, I cant afford it anyway I just thought it might be of interest to someone since buying an SGII and one or two other quality gauges would put you right in the price range for one of there .
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The thing about these is that there are "gauge packages" with external sensors, etc... which cost more. The main unit is nice, but there are "others" that go with it. That's where they're really going to get your money, the way I understand it, anyway.
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Could be I know it does have add ons. I still like it but I will more than likely get the SGII or the Autometer Ecogauage due to its price point
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Could be I know it does have add ons. I still like it but I will more than likely get the SGII or the Autometer Ecogauage due to its price point
Which is the biggest "point" for most of us here.
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EPA mandated use of CAN-OBD-II in 2008, before that each manufacturer used different methodologies, Pulse-Width vs. Pulse Amplituide, etc.

That's why it's only recently that 'universal' gauges have become available...which means legacy stuff isn't going to be supported by the new gauges.

FWIW, I have an AutoMeter 9100 ecometer and find it less than satisfactory because basically only the MPG-average display is usable, the other three display modes are too jumpy and fluctuate too much to be usable.


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