It's all over but for the sweating?

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Originally Posted by DevilzTower

The only post you have used your owns words was to callout those who disagreed with you calling them ingnorant and misinformed at best. And I even smelled the distinct tone of religous superiority in those words... embarassing.

You drive a 86 K20 truck that kicks out so many emissions I bet your Focus could run on the unburnt gas. So franky, you don't really care about emissions.

New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism - Yahoo! News

The geological timescale to make a proper understanding of what is happening on earth will take much much longer to understand than the limited timeframe of observations the scientists have at their discretion. And those scientists should know that.

I don't have to worry about your paycheck, because I know where the scientists are getting theirs. From likeminded individuals who are bankrolling their studies.

There is only one conclusion to make when you start with the answer and look for data to support it.

The conclusion I deduct from those who start with the answer is they believe they have superior knowledge, which presumes my ignorance, as well as their complete knowledge of the subject.
Since complete knowledge of any subject is impossible, as knowledge is a constantly expanding endeavor, then their objectives become irrelevant.

regards
Mech

[ksa8907]

i didn't read the thread, but here's my 2 cents. Are we warming the earth by creating co2, yes. has the earth ever warmed before, yes, multiple times. can we survive? nobody knows, but i find it hard to believe we could not. but i suppose we should go stick our heads in the sand for good measure.

alligators survived, are we smarter than that?

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by suspectnumber961

I SAID it was difficult. If you show me your pay stub...I'll show you mine.

What is difficult, or are you saying I am being paid now ?

Originally Posted by suspectnumber961

Except my posts are derived from my own opinions and not much else...though most probably have little real effect. That's why I try to put the emphasis on making real substantive changes in my own life where possible. That is what is really difficult. Like getting off my *ss and exercising....

I'm sure your *ss will save the world.

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

I see we have people who are not fans of preindustial age climate change.

Because there was no preindustrial age climate change - unless you go back about a quarter of a billion years to the Permian-Triassic extinction. I'm not a fan of that, are you?

Now note that by "climate change", I don't mean the ongoing variation produced by things like the Milankovic cycles, but change produced by dumping large amounts of CO2 into the system.

History has shown us a cooler climate only results in more famine and petulance.

Sure, and this explains why sub-Saharan Africa and the Amazon Basin are historically the most prosperous places on Earth, doesn't it? And why the Industrial Revolution started in NORTHERN Europe, why the North won the Civil War...

And what you have against petulance is beyond me. Could it be that you are as ignorant of spelling, vocabulary, and the use of dictionaries as you are of basic science, and really meant to say that cooler climates create more pestilence, "a contagious or infectious epidemic disease that is virulent and devastating"? Well, this may surprise you (that ignorance showing again) but pestilence & infectious disease in general is far more common in hot climates than in cooler ones.

[Arragonis]

*cough

Medieval warming WAS global ? new science contradicts IPCC ? The Register

In other words, global warming has already occurred in historical, pre-industrial times, and then gone away again

[freebeard]

*cough

Which is why I think the built infrastructure should trend toward withstanding both hotter and colder conditions. A house could be inhabitable from -100°F to 150°F if it were designed properly. And in 250mph winds. Consider the extremes an airliner's fuselage is subjected to.

[oil pan 4]

If world wide climate warming and cooling periods are not climate change, what is?

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

If world wide climate warming and cooling periods are not climate change, what is?

OK, then by that definition the cooling we are experiencing now (in the northern hemisphere) is climate change, as is the warming trend that will start around March or April :-)

Of course there are warming & cooling cycles in nature, ranging from it generally being warmer in the afternoon than in the middle of the night up to the ~10,000 year long Milankovitch cycles Milankovitch cycles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that drive ice ages. We understand these things (or at least those of us who bother to learn anything about science instead of indulging in wish fulfillment fantasies do), and we know that they're all normal & natural, and have very little to do with the current & future climate change being driven by CO2 from fossil fuels.

[ksa8907]

I think im gonna buy a truck soon, how about a lifted excursion. Thoughts?

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

If world wide climate warming and cooling periods are not climate change, what is?

...the difference is WHO or WHAT gets the BLAME as the cause...rightly or wrongly!