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Old 04-14-2008, 12:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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the metro experience - '94 metro 4 dr HB
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I finally got motivated enough to start building the recumbent that I've talked about making for years. I'm following an EZ-clone design from here http://www.recycledrecumbent.com/. The bike started life as a black colored tall frame schwinn road bike and a white colored Belgium made Trak (not Trek) road bike that used knit style tires. I've pretty much finished fabbing the frame at this point. The bare frame weighs in at around 8lbs 8 oz. The schwinn was a pretty heavy frame. I still have a long ways to go before I can test ride it. The seat will be my biggest challenge. Here are some pics of the frame as I was finishing the rear triangle alignment and then adding the 2 bottom rails. All that's left for major frame work is to finish closing the joints for the bottom rails to rear triangle and bottom rails to crank mounts then weld em up.

Edit: I'm not a bike expert and I don't know all the proper nomenclature for bikes and thier parts so bear with me.


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Old 04-14-2008, 01:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The Wagen - '00 Jetta GLS
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Old 04-14-2008, 01:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks,
Years ago I rode around on a home brew delta style trike recumbent that i owned for a while. It was very very heavy and only had one speed but was fun for around town cruising. It definitely takes different muscles to move around on but the riding position is nice. My neck and wrists don't agree with long traditional road bike rides anymore and I'm hoping this will keep me riding more.
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Old 04-14-2008, 01:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm finishing the welding on the bottom rails today. I strayed from the plan a little on the rails. They call for two 3/4" emt rails and there is a slight bend near the rear, but I only owned a 1/2" emt bender so I used 1/2". I hope it's strong enough. Over the weekend I went to a local barn sale and found 3 different types of 3/4" pipe and emt benders (shown in pic to the left of the 1/2" one) for $5 each so I bought all of them . Now I can redo it with 3/4" if i have to .
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Old 04-14-2008, 02:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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looks like a great project, im working on designing and building a recumbent trike.
have fun with your project and have many safe miles of riding
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Old 04-14-2008, 04:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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thanks john,

I finished welding the frame, now onto all the parts that go on it.

I know I should try working on the seat but I don't want to get bogged down this early on something hard.

Next day I plan to weld a brake bridge to the front fork since I'm using a 20" wheel. Then clean up the old head tube bearings and install it.
Then clean up the crank bearings and install bottom bracket and crank arms. I've got my eye on a 3 ring "biopace" crank a friend has on an old specialized mountain bike, but I just want to get it road worthy first then upgrade components if it's worth the effort. Maybe put the rear wheel on and a kick stand so it looks like it could roll .
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Old 04-14-2008, 08:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Blackfly - '98 Metro
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Subscribed. Looks good so far. Nice find - all those EMT benders!

And... whose MG is that?
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Old 04-15-2008, 08:05 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks,

That's my boss' MG. I decided to build the frame at work since I dont have a large flat work space in my barn at the moment.
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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got the head tube bearings cleaned, regreased and installed. Also did the same with the crank bearings.

Ran into a little problem with the bottom bracket though. I am using the crank and bottom bracket off a different schwinn because the original that was on the Trak was the old heavy pinned style. The tube that houses the bottom bracket must be a bit wider than the one on the schwinn because by the time I snug up the bearings properly there are only like a thread or two sticking out on the left bearing cup to allow the jam nut to thread on. Not sure what i will do about that. I could mill the face of either side to narrow the tube, but that would be a mess to try setting up properly with the long frame and all.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I think I'll get by with the little amount of threads for the bottom bracket bearing cup jamnut for now.

I put the wheels, crank, and kickstand on and weighed it. It was 23.74lbs as shown in the pic below. Over 6lbs of it is from the steel rear wheel/tire assembly . I can upgrade to lighter stuff after I prove out the design, my goal is to be around 35lbs when done.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Looking good!

Are you going to go with a hard/padded seat, or the mesh design?

EDIT - also, it looks like you went with less rake in your steerer tube than some of the other examples in the link you posted up at the top of the thread. (Or maybe it's just the photo angle)
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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And don't worry, chain will add a bunch of weight 35 pounds is a good goal though
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thanks.

I think I am going to try the mesh seat type, unless I see an easier way for another design.

The steer tube angle does look funny due to the photo angle. I didn't try to change it on purpose anyway . I just went out and checked it to the drawing and it seems to be about the same.

Yeah 2.5 normal chains will be heavy.
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just thought I'd post an old picture I found of the Trak that gave it's life for the recumbent build.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Looks nice. I have been planning on doing something like that myself. I am going to start with a mini one for my six year old. I have a three year old as well so we should get several years out of it.

Maybe someone can help me. I saw a trike on some website that was really simple, with two steering wheels in the back, and the pedal part just flipped around. It was kind of homebuilt looking. But I can't find it anymore? I want to build a copy. If anyone knows what I am talking about, please post a link

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Thanks peter,

I can't help you with that trike, I don't believe I've seen that one. Sounds
interesting though.

As far as bent building progress...
I just bought some brake cables and a new tube for the front wheel. i also found my old chain breaker tool so i can start putting a long chain together this weekend. Looks like I need to start fabricating the seat. Seems I can't do too much more without a seating position. The brake cables need a finished handlebar assembly and the handlebars need a seat to select the proper lengths. I'm thinking about mounting the shifters to the top tube in front of the seat somewhere instead of on the handlebars. That will keep the cable mess to a minimum.
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I had a chance to bend up the 1/2" emt frame rails for the seat and the 3/4" cross braces today. The benders worked great . Just need to weld them together now.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I finished welding the seat frame and the cross shaped brace that clamps the seat to the top rail. I also pieced a chain together and installed deraillers. I bought a tube for the front tire and installed it. I hope to pick up shifter cables tonight.
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wow, thats looking realy nice!
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