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Old 03-29-2018, 06:10 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Front page of the Ottawa paper today:
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Gas prices this week hit about a 2-year high.

I wonder if they'll sell.
Local prices in Huntsville have taken a distinct step up. Part of it is the seasonal gas change from winter to summer blend. But this seems suspicious as it follows a tax cut and huge USA Federal budget. Behavior like this in past has triggered inflation.

About the Ioniq, we compared the Fuelly numbers for the Gen-4 Prius ECO versus the Ioniq Blue and the user reported mileage suggests there may be a problem:
https://priuschat.com/threads/hyunda...9#post-2695316
Remove the 0 MPG bucket cars - probably data entry error
Remove the single car buckets - outliers are likely to be single car
51.6 MPG - Ioniq Blue, 18 cars (58 MPG EPA combined)
58.1 MPG - Prius ECO, 29 cars (56 MPG EPA combined)
I do not own either a Prius ECO or Ioniq Blue. Both of our cars are plugin hybrids and +95% of our miles are electric.

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Old 03-31-2018, 12:01 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Inflation is already here. Gas price increases will help speed it up. We're on a roll. Hang on to your hybrid/electrics.
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Old 03-31-2018, 10:16 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Local prices in Huntsville have taken a distinct step up. Part of it is the seasonal gas change from winter to summer blend. But this seems suspicious as it follows a tax cut and huge USA Federal budget. Behavior like this in past has triggered inflation.

About the Ioniq, we compared the Fuelly numbers for the Gen-4 Prius ECO versus the Ioniq Blue and the user reported mileage suggests there may be a problem:
https://priuschat.com/threads/hyunda...9#post-2695316
Remove the 0 MPG bucket cars - probably data entry error
Remove the single car buckets - outliers are likely to be single car
51.6 MPG - Ioniq Blue, 18 cars (58 MPG EPA combined)
58.1 MPG - Prius ECO, 29 cars (56 MPG EPA combined)
I do not own either a Prius ECO or Ioniq Blue. Both of our cars are plugin hybrids and +95% of our miles are electric.

Bob Wilson
Looks like a Classic made for the EPA test scenario,
Chevy cars have the same issue

Easiest way for .gov to stop the nonsense would be to list the speed the car can drive continuously on the highway and achieve the epa MPG

Many Chevies and apparently Hyundai have EPA crossover speeds around 50mph
Which everyone knows is a good way to lie.

Same thing for winter, there should be a 15 degree F (or lower) EPA winter city metric for cars to encourage better winter efficiency.
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Old 03-31-2018, 02:36 PM   #94 (permalink)
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As I vaguely recall, current EPA FE tests are "centered" around 55 mph speeds, with VERY short burst up to 60 mph.

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