LCD vs CRT ranting

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Still top-posting, I see. It's a hard habit to break.

Cultural, perhaps Although CripleRooster doesn't top post.

Originally Posted by All Darc

So the curse was a bit more benevolent with me this time. Good for me but worse for you. Sorry.

I was hoping this day would come later, when there was significant improvement in the technology over my plasma and I wouldn't mind "upgrading".

What do you think of OLED? The cheapest models I can find run about $1,300 USD for a refurbished 65" display. I'm certainly not going to settle for a smaller TV, but I also don't want to spend too much.

https://slickdeals.net/f/11406927-re...archBarV2Algo1

[All Darc]

Voodoo for human would require a piece of hair or something, to make a voodoo doll model of hin. In this case of TV I would need some piece of his TV.
So I'm innocent. ;-)

OLED have motion blur too. It's more expensive (in my counry it's double the price of LCD at least or more) and lifespam it's 50% of LCD models, making it 4x worse in terms of cost per year of TV life.
It can generate burn-in effect, specially if used as monitor for PC or to watch movies with black bars.
And the display have not much light intensity capability.

So it's still not good for me. Even if was, the TV Broadcast here on Brazil use garbage video compression, killing details. The sat signed TV it's the worse of all, with MGM Gold HD channel with some modern films looking worse then prime VHS for the motion scenes. Netfix is "less worse", but still bad enough to me hate it, since any scene that it's not fully bright like a Disney TV series for teens, get artefacts and blocks in mediun and dark scenes.

I never saw a decent digital image transmission on Brazil. Never !!!

Even the digital decoder adapter/converter for analogic TVs it's a garbage. It make the image signal came out ot the device already with white clipping, so even if I turned the CRT TV contrast to zero, the tones near white keep clipped since the decoder converter make the signal this way.
It's like they thought in everyting possible to anoy me, even in the choices of fixed setting of the digital converter adapter. The enginers who created it hate me.

[ksa8907]

I've got a 5 year old, 720p, plasma tv and i think it looks great. The stock color settings suck, but with enough work, they can be quite good.

[redpoint5]

Apparently used plasmas are going for a small fortune, so maybe I'll give it my best effort to fix my TV, or maybe just live with composite inputs. Not sure I'm willing to spend $1,300 on a technology that isn't clearly better than plasma.

[freebeard]

So I'm innocent. ;-)

So say we all.

I think your reaction is fascinating. Have you done experiments like viewing in a mirror, through polarized filters, etc. How do you do with film at a 24fps shutter speed?

Projectors? Apple's Retina display?

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I think your reaction is fascinating.

Are there other examples of technology that "progressed" into versions that performed worse in multiple categories? EVs come to mind with phenomenally expensive "gas tanks" that take ages to fill, and must be filled at progressively slower rates, that grow smaller over time.

I'm convinced now not to own an LCD TV. I've won one and gave it away, and currently own a technology that is sought after, plasma, and don't want to replace it with inferior technology. That said, LCD panels are dirt cheap these days. I can get a 65" 4k LCD for $450.

[Xist]

I bought Mom a 32" 720p TV and she never uses it. Her Siko TV is full HD, but that seems to be its only redeeming quality.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by All Darc

My relatives got a 4K 50 inch LED TV, and I prefer to watch a 20 inch CRT over that garbage.

My dad has bought in 2011 a 32-inch LED TV that stopped working for no reason last November, so I simply bought a digital converter and resumed using an old 5.5-inch black-and-white portable CRT TV that I bought in 2010. Well, even when I already had that 32-inch LED POS, I still used the 5.5-inch CRT from late 2014 to early 2016 when my dad bought a wall-mounted support for the LED TV which is now simply hanging from a wall in my bedroom gathering dust.

I don't uinderstand why people accept be made of fools, and there is no long CRT for sale.

When Philips still made CRT TVs, it has claimed that some of its 14-inch ones was the best to use in bedrooms. Well, I really don't understand why not making them with integrated digital converters like the flat TVs have.

Originally Posted by freebeard

Should we storm Brazil

Just annex Rio Grande do Sul, Santa Catarina, Paraná, São Paulo and Mato Grosso do Sul, deport all the commies to Venezuela and Cuba, and call it an epic day

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by Ecky

I was a CRT holdout for a long time, but truth be told, when I finally switched, I never looked back. CRTs are fuzzy, flicker, and when compared with a high quality panel IPS or -VA panel, don't render colors as accurately. They were also more expensive (both to purchase and ship) and power hungry. Certainly if you buy cheap garbage LCD panels you'll be disappointed, but it's not true to say that the technology is inferior. Perhaps not better in every sense, but better in enough ways that matter.

My 27” Trinitron uses about 35 watts,
My roommates 36” LCD uses about 40 watts

I’m not sure that “power” hungry is universally accurate,
Because a lot of folks buy an 80” lcd they are using more power than if they had a smaller classic CRT

[Ecky]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

My 27” Trinitron uses about 35 watts,
My roommates 36” LCD uses about 40 watts

I’m not sure that “power” hungry is universally accurate,
Because a lot of folks buy an 80” lcd they are using more power than if they had a smaller classic CRT

In 2006 I replaced this 21" Trinitrton (~19.8" actual) with a 24" MVA panel from BenQ:

https://www.cnet.com/products/sony-c...-series/specs/

Power consumption dropped from 145w to 95w. I still have that screen floating around, but it looks like garbage these days, despite being the holy grail of screens around the turn of the century.

Last year I replaced my ~11 year old BenQ MVA LCD with a 27" IPS panel in a Dell Ultrasharp 27" and reduced power consumption down to ~35w, presumably because of a switch from CCFL to LED backlighting.