A.M.E.C. Economy Run III - Fonda, NY 8-23-09

[Wonderboy]

Pheew - by the skin of my teeth. SIGN ME UP!!!! this happened so quickly. I'm hoping to have the XFi fixed by then, but if not I'll bring the civic. I want to be able to actually compete with ben and darin though, so hopefully I can get the XFi on the road by then No matter what happens it should be great - the Green Grand Prix was a blast. See y'all there.

[UfoTofU]

Maybe I can make it

[SVOboy]

Originally Posted by RobertSmalls

Actually, if the speeds were a little lower, I'd bring an athlete friend who would complete the course on an upright bicycle in 4-5 hours with zero fuel.

Also, don't worry about the Insight ... it's averaging 64 gallons per mile. I've used about 0.4 gallons charging the batteries and testing the cooling system, and gone about 10m up and down the driveway.

I'm looking forward to meeting some EcoModders and seeing their machines, and it'll be fun to see old tech vs new tech, and two wheels vs four.

I could complete the course on my bicycle, but that seems beside the point

[blownb310]

Originally Posted by Wonderboy

Pheew - by the skin of my teeth. SIGN ME UP!!!! this happened so quickly. I'm hoping to have the XFi fixed by then, but if not I'll bring the civic. I want to be able to actually compete with ben and darin though, so hopefully I can get the XFi on the road by then No matter what happens it should be great - the Green Grand Prix was a blast. See y'all there.

Wonderboy, we actually filled all 25 spots last night, but I see you posted this at 11:01 pm last night. So I'll create a 26th spot for you. Kindly let me know your name, year/make car, and city and state you're from please, so I can add you to the roster.

Thanks,

Mike

[blownb310]

Registration is now closed for Economy Run III

The fact that we filled up the event six weeks in advance is surprising
and encouraging at the same time. It shows that quite a few people really
want to participate in these types of events. Unfortunately, these events
are far and few between. We need more of them! They are not really
difficult to do and I hope we have inspired other groups or car clubs to
create their own versions of these events for all to enjoy.

1. Mike Kamm - 1977 Datsun B210 - Averill Park, NY
2. Tom Moeller - 1994 Mazda Miata - Saratoga, NY
3. Dave Burnham - 1991 Eco Diesel Jetta - Delanson, NY
4. Ben Jones - 1991 Honda CRX - Hanover, NH
5. Richard Vedder - 2000 Ford ZX2 S/R - Johnstown, NY
6. Martin Deschenes - 2000 VW Jetta TDI - Quebec City, QC
7. Ron Kienhuis - 1972 Citroën SM - Long Island, NY
8. Vlad Saakyan - 2003 Suzuki Svs650 - 518 forums
9. Bill Clark - 1957 Metropolitan Hartop - Endicott, NY
10. Bruce Turk- 1958 Saab 93B - Walden, NY
11. Ernie Yue - 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250cc
12. Dan & Richard Dobbins - 1964 Studebaker GT Hawk - Long Island, NY
13. Matt Herring - 2009 Toyota Prius - Boston, MA
14. Robert Smalls - 2000 Honda Insight - Buffalo, NY
15. Peter Ramotowski - 2000 VW Golf TDI - Albany, NY
16. Eric Hoefer - 2008 Honda Fit - Guilderland, NY
17. Ryan Kramer - 1988 Toyota MR2 Supercharged - Albany NY
18. Lance David - 1996 Chevy Cavalier - Johnstown, NY
19. Darin Cosgrove - 1998 Pontiac Firefly - Ontario, Canada
20. Chang Ho Kim - 89 Honda CRX - Maynard, MA
21. Jeff Morgan - 1992 240sx - Rotterdam, NY
22. Hobbit - 2004 Toyota Prius - Boston, MA
23. Tom Compoli - 1981 VW Rabbit - Schenectady, NY
24. Dan Mandle - 2004 Golf TDI [Vegetable Oil] - Potsdam, NY
25. Ricardo Bowlin - 1999 Dodge Avenger - Schenectady, NY
26. Will Meredith - 1998 Honda Civic EX - Binghamton, NY

If anyone on this list cannot make it, please let me know.
There is now a waiting list to get in and several people are hoping a spot will open up.

[SVOboy]

You have darin on the list twice

[UfoTofU]

Originally Posted by SVOboy

You have darin on the list twice

He has two 20s

[blownb310]

Thanks guys, fixed it.

[blownb310]

Originally Posted by MetroMPG

Excellent -thanks for putting me in, Mike.

I like the plan to fill to the brim for MPG measurement. Are there any vehicles registered that *can't* be filled to the brim? (CEL / evap issues?)

If so, after this year's Green Grand Prix, for those vehicles I'd recommend some sort of simple dipstick measurement to fill at least to the same point, part way up the filler neck, rather than "1st click". 1st click is faith-based filling ; a dipstick is primitive, but it's scientific. And I believe the EVAP intake is usually right at the top of the neck, so it would still be OK to do.

Missed this post somehow in the flurry of the last few days. Darin, the only vehicles that I know of that are prone to triggering a CEL if filled to the rim are the Toyota and Lexus models. There may be more, but I haven't heard about any others yet. Of the 15 vehicles we've had at last year's event, no one's had a problem. Of course, we didn't fill Hobbit's Prius up all the way up because we knew the Prius cars have that fuel tank bladder. Supposedly the 2010 models will no longer have one and they may be OK to fill all the way up in the future.

If anyone know of another make/model of car that cannot be filled "to the rim" with fuel without having a problem, please chime in.

Mike

[Wonderboy]

Will Meredith - 1998 Honda Civic EX - Binghamton, NY

I hope it's okay if this is subject to change - depends on if I get the 92 Metro XFi roadworthy by then. I can guarantee at least the honda though. Thanks a lot for bending a little Very excited about this.