Make America Guzzle Again!?

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

Compressed co2 has many uses, should just sell it to weld shops, science experiments, food industry and BB gun makers...

The amount used for all those things is a miniscule fraction of the amount produced by a single coal-fired power plant.

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

CO2 works much better than water for oil recovery. Then when the oil runs out the CO2 stays in the ground.

Except that it doesn't stay in the ground very long. And meanwhile the fracking causes earthquakes, disrupts water tables, and produces more cheap(er) oil which again distracts from doing anything about the real problems.

[stovie]

Co2 doesn't really concern me that much cause I don't believe man made global warming is as big as they make it out too be!! They keep saying that 97% of climatologists say man made global warming is real, BUT they drastically disagree on the overall amount it affects the world!! I really don't care about emissions other then to be able to possibly get a smog forming pollutants reduction on the fly for when I'm in really bad areas!! I do this for the savings as well as the fun I have playing with cars!!

[freebeard]

jamesqf — Yeah,it would crash the market for sure.

CO2 turned into stone in Iceland in climate change breakthrough
Radical new technique promises a cheaper and more secure method of burying CO2 emissions underground instead of storing it as a gas

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...e-breakthrough

Geothermal energy is available in the western United States.

[oil pan 4]

The United states is already the world's largest geo thermal energy producer. We have been producing geo thermal power since the 1960s, way before it was cool to do so. We invented the technolog.

If oil and natural gas stayed in the ground for millions of years how is CO2 put there going to excape?
Like it or not the oil is still getting used, doesn't matter if CO2 or water is used to drive it out of the ground.

Don't worry about fracking, according to my inside oil contacts up to 85% of the wells that can be hydraulically fractured have been. And that the only thing driving fracking jobs at this point is fear that an a fracking ban would be passed.
If it weren't for the anti fracking useful idiots almost all fracking would have stopped around 2010 or 2011 and would only be done on an as needed basis.
Every fracking rig in this region has been booked solid carrying a 2 year back log until about a year ago, just because they are running out of wells.
There are companies drilling wells then fracking them not because they need to but because they may not be able to do it in the future. The oil company that drills and fracks the most holes wins.
Really if it wasn't for the fear of a ban and only supply and demand were driving fracking only 20 to 30% of wells would have been fracked today and natural gas would cost 2 to 3 times what it is now and oil would probably be around $100/bbl.
So thank you for the cheap oil and natural gas.

[Hersbird]

Not true about the 85% of wells that could be fracked have been fracked. Maybe of the wells that have currently been drilled but there are many, many more wells that can be drilled and then fracked. They are only working one part of the Bakken, mostly North Dakota. There is just as big an area if not bigger under Montana that has hardly been touched. There are a limited number of drill and frack rigs available. There are between 40,000 and 100,000 more wells that may be drilled still and each well will produce oil for 40 years or more. At the end of that 40 years 85% of the oil will still be left in the well, if technology improves (which is a safe bet on history) in that 40 years there could be 100 or more years available in each well. We could be talking about a total of 643 billion barrels of oil there. It won't be the last place we discover new oil either.

[oil pan 4]

Yes I was talking about current wells.
Something like up to another 1,000,000 wells could be drilled in and around the U.S. before we give up on oil.
One of those improvements to increase oil recovery could be pumping CO2 into the well to drive out the oil. It's supposed to work a lot better than water.

Now it takes between 4 and 20 gallons of water to recover 1 gallon of oil. If, no when they start using CO2 that liquid CO2 weighs about 9 pounds per gallon.
What if they start pumping between 2 and 10 gallons of CO2 down for every gallon of oil.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

American car companies were arguing that cars that passed crash tests in the US were superior to Euro cars and there was no reason for them to test for entry to Euro markets.

They had a 3rd party do tests to the Euro standards on cars that passed here and then hushed the results because our cars failed the crash tests.

Interesting... But anyway, crash safety has never been enforced so strictly in my POS of a country. Airbags became mandatory for most light-duty vehicles, but in many of the penalty boxes sold here it's roughly like wiping an ice cube due to their poorly-dimensioned structures.

[freebeard]

but in many of the penalty boxes sold here it's roughly like wiping an ice cube due to their poorly-dimensioned structures.

Loses something in translation.

Leave fossil fuels in the ground

oil pan 4 — Sounds like you're in a position to know, but...

If oil and natural gas stayed in the ground for millions of years how is CO2 put there going to excape[sic]?

That's what it does. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abioge...troleum_origin Coal maybe comes from trees. Maybe. There're more microorganisms in the volume of the Earth than there are on it's surface.

All I know about fracking I've learned from Max Keiser: fracking | Max Keiser KR547 sounds interesting. TLDR: Bubble.

[oil pan 4]

There is precisely 0 chance that vast reserves fossil fuels are going to be left in the ground.

[freebeard]

OTOH if it replenishes at a slow, sustained rate, then it will be endless but you'll end up sucking really hard to get it. Or slack of and easily match that rate.